Read, Listen, Watch June 8, 2012
Posted by Wilhelm Arcturus in entertainment, Podcasts.Tags: Just Opinions, No Pictures, Poorly Organized Thoughts, Somebody will take offense, YouTube, Zero Punctuation
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The title of this post is a hierarchy, and should thus probably be represented as:
- Read
- Listen
- Watch
That is my order of preference for getting information about gaming in general and MMOs in particular.
Read
It is easy for me to tell you why reading is in first place, and it isn’t merely because it is something I have become pretty used to over the last 45 years or so.
When you are reading, you are in control.
Yes, the author put it all together and laid it out for you, but you get to pick and choose what you’ll read and when you’ll read it. You can read something in total, you can skim, you can jump to the end, you can walk away and come back to pick up where you left off. Reading seems to me to be the optimal way for me to pick up the information I want about gaming.
And this is reflected in my RSS feed, where I follow more than 200 sources, including blogs, news sites, and forums. Somebody will say that is a lot. It really isn’t. If I skim headlines and mark stories to read later and pick sites with care to avoid too much duplication, my RSS feed is a 10-15 minute daily assignment in the morning before work, with some follow up during the day. And FlipBoard on the iPad makes it so I can also pick up Twitter and Facebook updates (Flipboard actually makes Facebook a manageable and useful source of information! Imagine that!) and do this all while I am still in bed.
There are, of course, issues with with written word. It can be difficult to get across the correct tone when writing. Then there are people who will read a post and call you a hater because you said something negative about the game they love, disregarding anything positive you might have said. And of course, anything that smacks of satire or sarcasm is going to get misunderstood by somebody. But I am sure A Modest Proposal spurred some people to protest vehemently against the idea of eating children in its day.
And, of course, when I am reading… as opposed to skimming headlines… I cannot really do anything else. It requires focus. But I can pick my iPad and move somewhere quiet if focus becomes an issue.
Listen
In some ways, listening to somebody else talk about MMOs seems like an ideal middle ground. I can listen to a podcast while I drive or play certain games on my computer, so it gets points for multi-tasking.
I have to pause whatever I am listening to in order to read anything detailed. A paragraph of quest text seems to require the same mental resources as listening to somebody speak, so if I do not pause I will often find that anything said while I was reading was lost. But that only applies to longer blocks of text and any attempt to play a text based game like a MUD. Short messages, quest updates, and random idiots on chat do not take over the language processing portions of my brain long enough to interfere with what I am listening to.
And audio solves much of the tone problem people have with the written word. You can hear is somebody is calm or angry or laughing hysterically as they present something. I also find interviews can be much more effective with audio. Again, the dry written word is hard pressed to express emotion effectively. I recall back to the Jeff Green interview with Jeff Butler about Vanguard on the 11/10/2006 GFW podcast. It was outstanding. A pity you cannot download it any more.
The problems with audio as a format however negate much of the multi-tasking benefit.
First, you are pretty much at the mercy of the show creator when it comes to the flow of content. Unless they spent the time to setup chapters… and almost nobody does that… skipping ahead really is not an option. Sorry, but I am not always interested in your musical interludes or rambling general chit-chat, or any “what are we playing” segment that goes on for more than a minute per person speaking.
Second, as a method of transmitting detailed information, audio just sucks. There is an old saying about people being able to keep five things in their brain, plus or minus three. I am definitely on the minus side of things these days. So if you read out something like the comparison of the Riders of Rohan pre-order options I put in my post yesterday, I would have completely forgotten the basic option by the time you got to the legendary description. Presented as the printed word, I can flip back and forth and refresh my memory. Such an option is not available with audio, unless I read along, in which case I would rather just read.
Finally, there are just a bunch of little annoyances that have turned me off of podcasts over the last couple of years. I am surprisingly unforgiving of poor sound quality. There is the voice of the host, which if I do not like, I am not coming back. (And I say that while freely admit I cannot stand the sound of my own voice either, so welcome to the club.) It is also tough to search podcasts for content and when the owner disables the feed, the podcast is gone forever unless you have saved it locally. Adios all of Massively Online Gamer.
And then there seems to be this need to hit time goals, like it really isn’t a podcast if it doesn’t run at least an hour. Please, please, please, get over that. You are not trying to fill a network time slot.
I will hold up, as an example of my ideal podcast, Planet Money. This is an NPR production that is done just as a podcast. So unlike, say, This American Life in podcast form, which does have to run in a one hour radio time slot, Planet Money only runs as long as it needs to. It opens with a standard segment, does just one story, and runs anywhere from 10 to 25 minutes, rarely exceeding 20.
This is great. I am always ready for the next episode. There is no fat and no padding things out to a specific time. This is a good example of “less is more.” Somebody emulate this with an MMO podcast.
Watch
Watching, which usually comes in the form of a video on YouTube, ranks in third place with me for a few reasons. As with audio, you are at the mercy of the presenter when it comes to pace and order of content, though at least with visual cues it is a bit easier to skip ahead.
Of course being a combination of visual and audio, you cannot really pay attention to the presentation and do anything else. You must stop, look, and listen. So it has that going against it along with the fact that I am stuck hooked to the internet while I watch. Books and podcasts can travel, video stays tethered in some way.
But all of that might be acceptable if the average gaming video cast wasn’t a complete mis-use of the medium.
Here is the deal. We are well on our way into the 21st century here. If you have modeled your show on the nightly news from the 1970s, you are doing it wrong. Having a news anchor at a desk was new and cool to my grandparents. If your value ad is a desk, a suit, and a few captions, please consider dialing it back to a podcast. And if you have a hipster in a t-shirt standing instead of a suit and a desk, congratulations, you’ve made it to the 1980s by emulating MTV news.
Yes, I know you want to get on screen and be a star, but unless you are angling to actually move your show to… I don’t know… the Syfy network maybe… let it go as a format.
Not that there isn’t a time and a place for the desk and microphone setup. If you are on the GDC show floor and are going to do an interview with Raph Koster sitting at a desk, great. I’ll get that it isn’t a studio production and frankly the nature of the event will make for some interesting give and take. There is something to the Larry King format I suppose.
When I started on this section, my conclusion was going to be that I do not watch any gaming news coverage done via video. And then I realized that I do watch one regularly.
I watch Zero Punctuation every week.
It is an editorial in the form of a review, so it is news-ish. But here is the thing, it represents an effective use of the online video format. There is enough on screen to make it worthwhile viewing as well as an effective and fast-paced audio track to go along with it. It all works and is viewable in the smallest viewing resolution and never once do we see Ben Croshaw and his hat live and in person.
Okay, we did see him once, in that episode when he was in Washington DC. I think that made a pretty strong case for him not appearing on camera again, a counter-point to his otherwise very effective use of the medium.
Some Sort of Conclusion
So those are my opinions. I have tried not to call anybody out as a negative example… though, I guess by not calling out a single good gaming podcast and exactly one good example for a gaming videocast, you might assume I hate them all. I do not. I am, however, somewhat jaded by what is available.
So aside from reinforcing my love of the power and portability of the written word, I am going to cover up my lack of any sort of a definitive conclusion with another poll.
So what is it for you?
Shut Up We’re Talking #64 June 7, 2010
Posted by Wilhelm Arcturus in Dungeons & Dragons Online, entertainment, EverQuest II, Lord of the Rings Online, Podcasts, Star Wars: The Old Republic, World of Warcraft.Tags: SUWT
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Shut Up We’re Talking, one of the podcasts in the VirginWorlds Podcast Collective, has released episode 64.
Regular hosts Darren from The Common Sense Gamer and Karen from Journey’s with Jaye were joined by Rob from Lost an Eight, and myself.
Topics:
- Introductions
- What We’re Playing
- Listener Mail – Comments from Rocknerd and Shawn
- No Point, but 50 Novels Deep – We talk about some comments coming out of BioWare, the first being that MMOs really don’t seem to have a point (and they’re going to fix that) and the second that Star Wars: The Old Republic is going to have 50 novels worth of “story” in the game. We all seem to agree that something claiming to be a virtual world ought to have many diversions beyond a main story and wonder how SWTOR is really going to feel. After all, the best stories in these games are often the personal ones, the things that happen to us.
- Free to Play in Middle-earth – The big news about Turbine moving Lord of the Rings Online to a free to play business model bumped the previously planned topic. We talk about what it means to the current community, what appeals to us, and what might be coming to the Middle-earth cash shop.
- Show Close
- Out Takes
Blogs of the Show:
- Darren – Stabbed Up
- Karen -Hunter’s Insight
- Rob – The CRPG Addict
- Myself – Broken Toys
The show is available via iTunes or can be downloaded directly at VirginWorlds or The Common Sense Gamer.
Shut Up We’re Talking #60 March 31, 2010
Posted by Wilhelm Arcturus in Casual Games, entertainment, Podcasts, Star Wars: The Old Republic, World of Warcraft.Tags: Farmville, GDC 2010, SUWT
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Shut Up We’re Talking, one of the podcasts in the VirginWorlds Podcast Collective, has released episode 60.
Regular hosts Darren from The Common Sense Gamer and Karen from Journey’s with Jaye were joined by Brent from VirginWorlds, and myself.
Topics:
- Introductions
- What We’re Playing – EQ2 for most of us, WoW and Pokemon for me, and Ageod’s American Civil War for Darren.
- Review of GDC San Francisco – We talk a bit about GDC, since we were all there, and review what we saw.
- Facebook and the Future - Prompted by events at GDC, where so-called “social games” were the next big thing (previous “next big things” have included casual games, free to play games, browser games, and subscription MMOs). We talk a lot about Facebook games, bringing up a lot of opinions from around net including those of Raph Koster, Soren Johnson, Brian Green, and others. (Reading those posts will bring you up to speed.) This is pretty much the meat of the show and explicit language is used.
- When A Million is not Enough – Sated on the Facebook front, we begin to moan about the subscription projections for Star Wars The Old Republic. I covered this a bit, but Scott Jennings really gives voice to our fears in his MMORPG.com column.
- Show Close
- Out Takes
Blogs of the Show
- Darren – Letrange’s EVE Blog
- Karen – Hardly Casual
- Brent – Bio Break
- Me – The Psychology of Video Games
Special show thanks go out to the Bullet Points Blog, the self-declared keeper of the Blogs of the Show List.
The show is available on iTunes or can be downloaded over at VirginWorlds.
Shut Up We’re Talking #58 February 16, 2010
Posted by Wilhelm Arcturus in Dungeons & Dragons Online, entertainment, EVE Online, Lord of the Rings Online, Podcasts, Star Trek Online, Warhammer Online, World of Warcraft.Tags: SUWT
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“Shut Up We’re Talking,” one of the podcasts in the VirginWorlds Podcast Collective, has released episode 58.
Regular hosts Darren from The Common Sense Gamer and Karen from Journey’s with Jaye were joined by Brian from Blue Kae, and myself.
Topics:
- Introductions
- What We’re Playing – EVE and STO seems to be the common theme for three of us.
- Listener Mail
- Expansions, Exploitation, and Downloadable Content – Prompted by a comment to show #57 by Teviko, we try to get at the question asked, then meander about the topic. References are made to the controversial show #30.
- The Next Triple-A Fantasy MMO? – Prompted by a post over at Serial Ganker, what happens in a genre dominated by WoW? Who would bother producing a subscription based AAA fantasy MMO these days? Do we give up and go home, watch for indy games, or look to science fiction, horror, or some other genre to provide an alternative.
- Show Close
- Out Takes
Blog Picks of the Show – Each episode everybody on the show gets to recommend one blog that we think you should go and check out. For this show the following blogs were recommended.
- Brian: The Engines Cannae’ Take It
- Darren: Serial Ganker
- Karen: MmoQuests
- myself: EVE Monkey
The show is available on iTunes or can be downloaded over at VirginWorlds.
Interview with Erik Estavillo! December 21, 2009
Posted by Wilhelm Arcturus in entertainment, Podcasts, World of Warcraft.Tags: Bender Podcast, Erik Estavillo
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“Who is Erik Estavillo?” I hear you ask.
Erik Estavillo is that guy who is suing Blizzard because he feels that World or Warcraft isn’t easy enough yet.
Refresher quote from the story about him over at GameSpot:
He first takes exception to the game’s $14.99 monthly subscription fee, calling it the highest of any MMORPG. He contends the fee is aggravated by the game requiring players to travel great distances at a slow walking or running pace, with fast travel options like teleportation stones and mounts only available to gamers who rise to an advanced level or purchase the game’s expansion packs.
Yeah, him. He is also the guy who has sued Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo over various issues he has had with their console systems.
Anyway, the team over at Binge Gamer’s The Bender Podcast got him on the line for an interview in episode 14!
Truly an achievement of note!
You can hear Erik Estavillo state his position in his own words.
And if that isn’t enough, Erik also has his own web site now, EstaVideo – All Things Erik Estavillo.
Enjoy.
Podcast Bingo – VanHemlock Win October 4, 2009
Posted by Wilhelm Arcturus in entertainment, Humor, Podcasts.Tags: SUWT, VanHemlock Podcast, VirginWorlds
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Over at VirginWorlds we have a 5 in a row winner with the VanHemlock Podcast

Unfortunately, the VanHemlock Podcast is so common on the VirginWorlds Podcast Collective that even five in a row does not pay out very much.
The Current Payout Table for five in a row:
- VanHemlock 2 to 1
- No Prisoners, No Mercy 4 to 1
- Shut Up, We’re Talking 10 to 1
- Through the Aftermath 12 to 1
- The Combobulator Podcast 15 to 1
- Limited Edition 15 to 1
- Spouse Aggro 20 to 1
- Warp Drive Active 30 to 1
- Brent’s Other Podcast 50 to 1
- VirginWorld’s Podcast 100 to 1
- Witty Ranter 1000 to 1
No news on the rumor that it will soon be called the “VanHemlock Podcast Collective.”
Who Owns Podcasting? August 4, 2009
Posted by Wilhelm Arcturus in entertainment, Podcasts.Tags: Adam Curry, Sun Microsystems, VoloMedia
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As a podcast listener and occasional guest on shows like Shut Up We’re Talking and Witty Ranter, I have a mild vested interest in podcasting.
So it was with some interest that I read about a company called VoloMedia that was granted a patent last week for “method for providing episodic media content.” Or, as it has been immediately spun, podcasting.
A detailed account is posted over at Ars Technica.
If you deliver episodic content over the internet, they believe they own you. Podcasts are part of it, but VoloMedia is aiming for anybody delivering episodic content as downloads.
Of course, this is going to cause some controversy.
I have to imagine that those involved with creating RSS are going to have a few words to say on the subject.
And then there is Sun Microsystems, now owned by Oracle, who it is claimed invented podcasting starting with work done back in 1999.
And, frankly, there has been podcast-like technology in progress for well over a decade.
How soon before Adam Curry speaks out on the subject?
Myself, I suspect that this will amount to very little in the end. Prior art will nip this in the bud.
We’ll see if I come to regret that opinion.
Shut Up We’re Talking #51 July 14, 2009
Posted by Wilhelm Arcturus in entertainment, EVE Online, EverQuest II, Podcasts.Tags: RMT, Runes of Magic, SUWT
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“Shut Up We’re Talking,” one of the podcasts in the VirginWorlds Podcast Collective, has released episode 51.
Regular hosts Darren from The Common Sense Gamer and Karen from Journey’s with Jaye were joined by Andrew from Of Teeth and Claws, Frank who runs MMO’ Money and contributes to MMORPG.com, and myself.
Topics:
- Introductions
- Listener Mail – DestroyerDestroyer regarding Mark Jacobs
- What We’re Playing
- White Collar Crime in a Space Suit – We talk about the latest EVE Online drama surrounding EBANK and the embezzlement of 200 billion ISK by Ricdic, the former CEO of the venture. The nature of EVE and the lack of any effective recourse when you have lost money this way come up, along with the fact that your money is safe in your character’s wallet so that one of the traditional roles of a bank, safeguarding your cash, is missing from the equation.
- The Horse That Would Not Die – After the enthusiasm on the last show for Dungeon & Dragons Online’s adoption of a Free To Play model, Darren turned around and found a sore spot in the Runes of Magic cash shop, the now infamous $10 horse which lead him to post, and post, and post, and post yet again, some of which generated response posts from various points in the blogesphere, including this site. We have a therapy session with Darren and help him work through his issues. There are group hugs and towards the end we find that the horse in question was discounted to $5 for a limited time, which was almost low enough for Darren.
- Blog of the week – Mynxee’s Life in Low Sec
- Show Close – Includes peer pressure to get Karen to do a blog post
- Out Takes - EVE is like a hot biker chick?
You can get the show via iTunes or download it directly here.
Shut Up We’re Talking #50 June 29, 2009
Posted by Wilhelm Arcturus in entertainment, EVE Online, EverQuest, EverQuest II, Podcasts, Sony Online Entertainment, Vanguard SOH, Warhammer Online, World of Warcraft.Tags: Dungeons & Dragons Online, SUWT
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“Shut Up We’re Talking,” one of the podcasts in the VirginWorlds Podcast Collective, celebrates its 50th show this week!
Regular hosts Darren from The Common Sense Gamer and Karen from Journey’s with Jaye were joined by Brent, the reclusive Howard Hughes father figure of the VirginWorlds Podcast Collective, Michael Zenke, formerly of Massively and who is now working on fun stuff as part of the SOE team in Austin, Jonathan from the “Through the Aftermath” podcast, and myself.
Topics:
- Introductions – Includes a poem from Karen to celebrate the 50th show/second year of SUWT
- Listener Mail – From SmakenDahed and DestroyerDestroyer
- What We’re Playing
- Changing of the Guard at Mythic – We talk about the departure of Mark Jacobs from Mythic and EA as well as the return of Brad McQuaid to the spotlight. Jonathan has a cathartic rant about the latter while I generalize about the former, referencing an excellent Scott Jennings post.
- RMT Again – We then go on, again, about RMT and alternative subscription models in light of the major changes with Dungeons & Dragons Online and the release of Free Realms. We’re mostly excited about the DDO changes, but that is coming from people who see buying D&D modules as a natural part of life.
- Blog of the week – Of Teeth and Claws, go give it a visit.
- Show Close
- Out Takes – Michael runs amok
You can get the show via iTunes of download it directly here!
Congratulations to the SUWT team for 50 great shows!
Shut Up We’re Talking #45 April 14, 2009
Posted by Wilhelm Arcturus in entertainment, EVE Online, EverQuest II, Lord of the Rings Online, Podcasts, Warhammer Online, World of Warcraft.Tags: SUWT
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“Shut Up We’re Talking,” one of the podcasts in the VirginWorlds Podcast Collective, now has episode Forty Five available.
Hosts Darren and Karen are joined by the esteemed virtual monster hunter Van Hemlock and myself.
- Introductions - Darren attempts to confuse Karen
- What We’re Playing – You can probably guess if you read our respective blogs
- Listener Mail – From Akely and Yoh
- Blogger Privacy – We discuss our views on privacy as bloggers, what things we share and what things we hold back. Tobold is used as a reference point. At one point Van Hemlock shocks us all and says his full name. Then he points out that he did that on the Massively podcast some time back and it is really no big deal.
- Too Soon for Hype? – Inspired by Melmoth’s post about Funcom playing up their “Secret World” project at GDC, we talk about the sometimes enormous interval between announcing a project and it actually shipping along with the need for companies, especially public companies, to remind people that they have works in progress.
- Blog of the Week – Dichotomy of the Gamers Blogosphere, Darren breaks from his usual Canadian picks and learns how to pronounce “dichotomy.”
- Out Takes – The Queen and pronunciation
As always, it was a lot of fun. Thanks especially to Van Hemlock for staying up in the wee hours just to be silly with us.
You can download the show via iTunes or here at VirginWorlds.
