Daily Archives: September 5, 2011

EQ Progression Servers Remind Us Why Instancing Started in the First Place…

While I have not been playing on the Fippy Darkpaw for several months now, I have been keeping an eye on it and occasionally mentioning events on the server.

Somebody has to do it, I suppose, and after the big (for them) build up to the Fippy Darkpaw launch back in February, SOE has since seemed determined to keep a lid on all information about how things are going.

Me, I would have made the roll-out of each expansion a front page item on EQ Players.  The purpose of the progression servers is to SELL nostalgia for the game.  Actually mentioning what is going on once in a while might actually help serve that purpose.

But such is life.  One more disappointment from SOE.  Add it to the list.

So, there being no official information coming out about the time locked progression servers, I am pretty much left with the time locked progression server forum as a source of news.

Fortunately, SOE implemented RSS feeds for their forums, so I can subscribe and let new messages find me.  And this also means when SOE deletes posts from their forums, I can still read them.  At least if the reader grabs them in time.  SOE forum moderation is very quick to lock, edit, or delete.

So you can get posts like this.

Subject: So GMs need to start gettin involved in the Raid targets..

B/c from watching Redacted and what they have pretty much said is they dont care if your in there way. Thy dont care if your about to engage they will run over you. I saw this with  vindi.. 2 guilds sitting there waiting they bum rushover ad say F you and take it anyways… They are crude and just plain dont care. O yeah an the Revamp CT shouldnt be in yet… so all those earings they got ect shouldn’t be awared to them and should be taken back and the new CT taken out. But do GM’s care? I would say not till you get a ton of petitions against them for KSn mobs.. (which will happen) b/c we all know on this TLP server Redacted does not care about any other guild.. (yes stated by some of YOUR members Redacted) So when will GMs get invlolved.. When we train Redacted back for the BS they do to us? Or will you all do something about it now.. JUST like last expansion… Redacted has always been this way… even on ther other server as Redacted but different… but hey SOE… if we keep this up who knows how the server will go…. downhill or uphill…

The word “Redacted” was substituted in by Piestro, the EQ community relations lead, because naming names in the forums is against the rules.

This post also illustrates one of the three flavors of posts that seem to come up regularly in the time locked progression server forums, guilds fighting over raid targets.

Left to itself, multiple guilds hanging around waiting for the same target ends up being survival, or at least success, of the fittest contest.  And while some (the winners no doubt) see this as right and good, SOE has it somewhere in their head that all of the people out there are paying customers.  And so the game masters, such that they are, get involved now and again, policing those waiting for a given target and determining who was there first in adequate force.

This, of course, leads to more forum posts:

Subject: wtb

Pocket GM to grant raid targets to guilds who cannot mobilize fast enough to beat real players. And have such a high attrition rate due to bad management that most of their guild is comprised of boxes being run through 3rd party programs. PST to 2nd rate guild in Fippy.

P.S. It has come to my attention that they already have one.

Please disregard.

Just a guess here, but I am going to say that this guy was in the guild whose name was redacted by Piestro in the first post I quoted.  These sorts of posts go back and forth.

And this is exactly the sort of thing that comes to mind whenever I read somebody’s piece on the evils of instancing, because this represents a good chunk of the reality of the situation.  I recall on an episode of Shut Up We’re Talking Karen responding to an assertion that PvE is not competitive.  Her response was essentially a recap of guilds and the very real and very aggressive competition for bosses in a non-instanced MMO, with EQ being the poster child.

So if you are one of those dreaming your happy dreams of an MMO without instancing because it is bad for “community,” make sure you have an answer for this situation.  EQ is an example of what happens. Either the company has to put a yard duty on the playground to make sure everybody plays nice or the whole thing becomes Lord of the Flies, and neither is a good answer.

I suppose instancing does not have to be the answer, but it seems to be the one companies choose.  People revile WoW for instanced content, but even EverQuest II had raid bosses in instances from launch to keep some of their most vocal customers from complaining about the spawn camping situation.

What other choice is there?

And for those of you waiting for me to tie up that thread I left dangling, the other two regular post flavors in the forums are “something is broken” and “I wish I could change something about the progression servers.”  Some of the latter are amusing, but generally only the former have much value.

Question of the Day

Wargaming.net did an interview with MMO Crunch about World of Warplanes the other day.  There isn’t really much information in the interview.  Wargaming.net didn’t seem ready to talk about much of substance about the game at this point.

So, perhaps sensing that nothing substantial was going to get passed along, the interviewer decided to go for the “wouldn’t this be totally cool” level of questions.  And so this was asked:

This one’s a long shot, but I need to ask it. When a plane is shot down, will the wreckage crash onto the battlefields in World of Tanks?

Now wouldn’t that be cool?  At least the first time it happened?

Wargaming.net agreed that it would be cool but, no, that won’t be happening.