Daily Archives: September 13, 2013

Are We Done with Delve Yet?

I know, a silly question.  We are clearly never going to be “done” with Delve.  We come back every year.

But the current campaign seems to be dragging a bit.

Never enough of this though

I realize we haven’t actually been working on Delve all that long, but every siege fleet you go on seems to add another week to your internal time perspective of the campaign.

Not that going out with siege fleet is the absolute worst thing in EVE.  You are still part of a team and are doing something that will make a difference of some sort in the mixed up world of null sec sovereignty.  And the graphics are kind of cool.

Another Black Ops Jump

But believe me, every defense fleet called up to drive off Pandemic Legion, or whoever else decides to show up for a fight, is a breath of fresh air.

We actually moved our staging base over one system last weekend, hopping from 1DH-SX to F2OY-X just to stop PL from “hobo camping” us all the time.  I mentioned in a previous post how a PL pilot was docked up in the station in 1DH, which is NPC owned so anybody can dock up, and then undocking, bubbling the undock, and docking back up.  We were apparently done with that and we owned a station just one jump over.

Anyway, it was with some relief that I saw this morning that the sovereignty map had gone mostly yellow for Delve and Period Basis.

Delve Area - Sep. 13, 2013

Delve Area – Sep. 13, 2013

There is still a little patch of TEST in Delve, as well as a system in Period Basis and three more in Querious.  Though, since Black Legion and SOLAR FLEET seem to be conquering Querious, I am not sure that we will need to do anything with those three systems.

We will be done soon.  Just a few more fleets.  And then… what?

As I understand it, Delve will be turned into a vast swathe of rental space for the Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere as space communism harnesses the power of space capitalism to pay for all of the things to which we have begun to take for granted like ship reimbursements and capital ship subsidies.

The Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere is also on the sovereignty map now, up in the north-east of null sec.

Renter's Paradise

Renter’s Paradise

And, judging from Mynnna’s occasional exasperation, there are actually people interested in renting from Goons.  It must be the splashy and easy to understand graphic that talented Marne Deville, creator of some of the most memorable propaganda from the war in Fountain, put together.

Quick Guide to Renting

Quick Guide to Renting

You can read more about that in one of the official rental posts in the EVE forums.  I am just waiting for the conspiracy theories to start up about the fact that the group running the rental program has decided to call themselves the Rental Management Team (RMT).  I am sure that Dinsdale Pirannha is out there feeling vindicated by that naming scheme alone.

So just a few more ops and I hope we will be done with the sovereignty grind and on to something else.

A Tale of Two EVE Blogging Sites

A little over two months back I wrote a post about the MMO blogging community.  You can find it here.

It was one of my long, rambling pieces driven by gut feeling and emotion and blinding flashes of the obvious and a little bit of logic in there somewhere.  And it was a success, in as much as any blog post of mine is a success or failure.  People responded to it, other bloggers chimed in, and it pretty much proved my most basic premise, that there is an MMO blogging community out there.  The only way to deny it seemed to be to redefine the word “community.”  Yeah, we know who did that.

All good fun.

That whole post was kicked off by a change in the EVE blogging community and a resulting conflict.  That was back in late June when Marc Scaurus was looking to hand over his volunteer EVE Online community projects, EVE Blog Banter, the EVE Blog Pack, and the EVE Bloggers site.

The first two found new owners without any trouble, but there was a bit of a conflict over the last, the EVE Bloggers site.  Marc had chosen Cyberin to take over the site, but the person who originally started it and let it go, Alexia Morgan, wanted it back.  And between the two, there was clearly a difference in vision on how the site should go forward.

Winterblink did an interview with both Alexia and Cyberin which lay out their philosophy on the site going forward. (Screen grabs of the sites stolen from Winterblink without permission.  But he won’t mind, he’s a mensch.)

Cyberin, who ended up with the evebloggers.com, wanted to keep it essentially as it stood and evolve it slowly over time.  But the site would remain an aggregation of independent blogs.



Alexia, who, once denied, started the competing evebloggers.net, had a different vision.  He (this is EVE, so it is always “he” even when the name says “she”) wanted to consolidate blogs into a tighter community.  He wanted there to be a single site at which EVE bloggers would post their work.  It would build a closer community, allow for more cross-pollenization, and would give readers a single location to find EVE blogs.



The down side was that Alexia was trying to take a hard line on EVE bloggers who remained independent.  If he was going to create this community, he wasn’t going to do so for people who wouldn’t buy in.  He did include a feed from external sites, likely because that represented the established EVE blogging community, but his disdain for those who wouldn’t play ball was pretty clear.  Read the interview linked above. Or if you want something more damning, read this.

It was also pretty clear from the outset which I would prefer.  As pointed out in my own post about community, the “come blog on my site” idea is about as old as blogging itself and seems to me to be about as enticing as mud for breakfast.  Why would I hand over control of my work to a stranger?  Community does not require giving up control!  So I threw in with Team Cyberin.

Time ran along, both sites got going, and then neglect set it.

Cyberin mentioned something going on in real life a while back and I have not seen a word from him since.  I hope he is well and that things work out.  The site ran on auto-pilot for a while, and then a few weeks back the blogger feed got stuck and hasn’t updated since.  So it has been August 23rd on the blogger feed since… well… August 23rd.

Since evebloggers.com is the source for the bulk of the traffic on my EVE Online Pictures site, I noticed something was amiss pretty quickly.  The feed waits for Cyberin’s return.

So you might feel inclined to give me a hearty, “Ha ha!” in that Nelson Muntz voice, following on with “You picked the losing side!”

At which point I would have to mention that Alexia Morgan’s evebloggers.net, when it isn’t down (which it seems to be rather regularly when I try to check in, to the point that I was gong to declare it dead), looks to consist of six blogs people, three of whom are active on a regular basis.  Which is fine.  Blogs are blogs.  But I still see no real incentive to go there and give up control of my work.  There is no “win” for me there.

Meanwhile, the EVE Online blogging community continues trucking along.  Kirith Kodachi has a new Blog Banter running over at his site, now the home of Blog Banters.  The EVE Blog Pack continues on doing what ever it is they do.  And plenty of EVE Online bloggers write and post and carry on.  It is the way the internet works; problems and bad ideas just get bypassed.

If you are looking for an aggregation site for EVE Online blogs, there is always Foo’s EVE Online Blog Roll and Blog EVE. Both are up and running along just fine for now, and neither come with a pile of disdain for the community.  And we’ll see if evebloggers.com gets revived at some point.