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Will Nostalrius Drama Shift the Sleeping WoW Giant?

The developers however prefer to see the game continuously evolve and progress, and as such we have no plans to open classic realms or limited expansion content realms.

February 2011 repost of an earlier Blizzard response

People have been asking for a Vanilla server for a long time now.  That quote is from the old forums, which are no longer available.  When Tom Chilton stands up and loudly declares a vanilla server can’t be done and, even if it could be, that nobody would really want it, I believe his real motivation is encapsulated above. That has always been the sense of things that I have taken from the company and its statements.  They want to move forward, that today is always better than yesterday, and that tomorrow will be better still.

That quote at the top was posted less than three months after the Cataclysm expansion removed the original 1-60 game content of Azeroth.  But it was brought forward from the old forums, so it certainly pre-dates Cataclysm.  The whole vanilla server idea isn’t new.  It didn’t just come up this month.  Customers asking for it isn’t new.  Blizzard saying “no” isn’t new.  Even this reminder that Blizzard knew people wanted the old world back when it was still current and available, yet decided to do nothing with it until enough time passed to allow Tom Chilton to say it is too hard isn’t even that new.

A day that will live in infamy...

A day that will live in infamy…

What is new, what has sparked this constant smoldering hum of people asking for some sort of classic server… probably since The Burning Crusade launched… into an actual conflagration was Blizzard going after a private/pirate vanilla server that was an outlet for 150K players looking for that old school experience.

Serving the Nostalrius server with a cease and desist notice got people stirred up and brought the question of classic servers, long simmering, to a full boil.  We got a few choice blog posts in our corner of the internet when this kicked off:

Blizzard immediately tried to dismiss the whole thing in the way they always have.  However, the tide was already rushing in and, in a world where 5 million subscriptions, down from 10 million a little over a year ago, is the new normal somebody, and the game missed bringing in a billion dollars in revenue for the first time in a long stretch, somebody at Blizzard apparently decided that they might want to listen to that increasingly loud segment of the World of Warcraft fan base.

And so there was a blue post in the forums this morning, which I will quote in full at the end of the post.

It starts out with a statement that Blizzard’s silence on the subject shouldn’t be taken as a lack of attention on their part.  After years of silence, punctuated by terse and glib dismissals of the idea, that seems a bit disingenuous.  I mean, I have your pre-Cataclysm quotes handy if you want them.  So I will take it as read that there has suddenly been enough noise of late that they are actually taking the idea seriously for the first time.

That is followed up by a statement that Blizzard has to protect its IP and doesn’t know how to grant Nostalrius any sort of license to operate that would also protect the World of Warcraft brand.  I might suggest they check out what SOE did with Project 1999, but Blizzard hasn’t been interested in copying EverQuest since 2005 or so.  So Nostalrius will likely remain dead.

Then there is the return to why Blizzard won’t do a classic server; because it is hard.  If it were easy, of course they would do it, but it isn’t, so they won’t.  Pre-Cataclysm Azeroth is forever gone from Blizzard servers.

The post then offers up the idea of some sort of special, fresh start server that sounds remarkably like something I outlined in a comment over at SynCaine’s blog and what Rohan wrote about at Blessing of Kings. (And refined in a follow up post.) My own statement from about two weeks back:

Blizz has never been a company to take a step in a direction that hasn’t been well trod or to take big steps when little steps would do. So them jumping to a Vanilla server, even if they could get past the mental block and do it without too much cost, seems unlikely.

I think they would first venture into an alternate rules server test, something like a “hard mode” server. Crank up MOB damage and hit points, tone down exp gain, normal mode dungeons tuned up to not be face rolls, no transfers or insta-level characters, no heirlooms, flying restricted to only in Outland after 60 70 and Northrend after 68, 78 and some bits and pieces like that. Throw in some special achievements… or maybe just a gold border on current achievements that you get when you do them in hard mode, and I bet that would be a draw.

That is, after all, pretty much all SOE is doing with their nostalgia servers.

I think there is some merit in that option.  A fresh server experience with some differences and greater difficulty with everybody starting off at level 1 would be a draw for some.  Bhagpuss has said in the past that he wouldn’t want to play what would be simply a more difficult version of the same content available on live servers.  And that is a legitimate point of view, certainly.  But some people would.  I bet a lot of people would.

Yes, I know, that isn’t vanilla.  While I actually like some of the 1-60 Cataclysm content myself, having run through every zone now for my attempt at the Loremaster achievement, it still isn’t the same.  It isn’t old Westfall, old Deadmines, old Stranglethorn Vale with its myriad of pages to collect, or old Sunken Temple with its long series of challenges.

But it might be a start, a step in the right direction, an admission by Blizzard that their same old routine of the last eleven years of an expansion every two years with a one year content drought can’t just go on indefinitely.  Maybe they are finally feeling the need to do something different, to offer up a server that isn’t PvE, PvP, PvE-RP, or PvP-RP.

World of Warcraft is still the cash cow at Blizzard.  It still has a big team.  It still could make a billion dollars a year in revenue if it could attract back some of the lapsed player base with something a little different.  Maybe this is the first step to vanilla.

I doubt it.  I think that so long as Tom Chilton is calling the shots, Blizzard will continue down its standard path. (He is becoming the Blizzard version of Smed when it comes to quotes, especially after calling Garrisons the WoW version of housing.)  But it could happen.

Is today’s post a sign of a shift at Blizzard, or an attempt to calm people down and hope the whole issue goes away once the Warcraft movie premiers and the WoW Legion expansion launches?

Others writing on the topic, updated as they pop up:

Today’s blue post quoted in full after the cut:

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Capitals at Okagaiken

HURRICANES – OP3 – THOMAS LEAR FLEET – STRATOP – STANDING FLEET GET IN THIS – EVERYONE – HOSTILES CAPITALS TACKLED GO GO GO GO

Jabber Ping, 2016-04-26 02:30:08 New Eden time

I happened to be sitting in front of my computer when that ping, my wife was out of the house and my daughter was otherwise occupied, so it was clearly time to log in and shoot something.

I got on, jumped in the Hurricane I had sitting in the back room of the Quafe Company Warehouse, joined the fleet, and connected up to voice coms.  It was go go go time.

We got ourselves sorted out fairly quickly and undocked.  FC Thomas Lear gave us a free burn destination, Okagaiken.  Just five gates to travel and the promise of hostile supers trapped at the far end.

We burned off as quick as we could and, as we approached our destination, Thomas Lear told us to hold our cloak when we jumped through into Okagaiken.  Sure enough, just there on the other side of the gate was a pile of Psychotic Tendencies capital ships in a ball between the gate and a blue water planet.

Psychotic Tendencies capitals spotted

Psychotic Tendencies capitals spotted

When we were through in force we anchored up and set out after the enemy.  We were told to start shooting fighters as the situation sorted itself.  We took shots at a couple of carriers before Aliventi in an Archon was spotted away from the pack.  We headed for him to bump him further from his support then shot him up fairly quickly.

Aliventi about to go down

Aliventi about to go down

Once he was down we turned back towards the main force and tried to take on a another carrier.  However, by then the enemy had reinforcements bridging into the system to help.

About them I saw the fighters on my overview begin targeting me.  I had clearly been called primary by someone.  I called for shield reps and our logi got on me before the fighters began to hit in force.  However, it was not enough and my Hurricane blew up leaving me in my pod.

Thomas was getting people to align and warped us all away, me following along in my pod.  Then we turned about and as I was setting the self-destruct we were warped off again before I could cancel in, aborting my attempt.  At the far end I got somebody to pod me and was back in Saranen.

However, by that point orders had come down waving off anybody else coming to Okagaiken.  The enemy had arrived in force and it was decided not to feed them kills.  The fleet docked up in the station at Okagaiken and waited for the enemy to clear off.

The exchange was a bit in our favor, with the battle report indicating we lost 66 ships worth 4.8 billion ISK while the enemy lost 33 ships worth 5.8 billion ISK.  A short, sharp encounter.  Here are a few more screen shots: