Scenes from the Saranen Undock

We have lost our homes.  We have been driven out of null sec.  We are hold up in the back room of a soda warehouse in a low sec system .  And yet we have not given up.  We form up around the clock.  We send fleets out into our former homes to harass and reinforce structures.

So the Moneybadger Coalition has come to Saranen to try to make us say, “uncle.”.

First it was just Pandemic Legion and NCDot.  They moved from 93PI-4 in Pure Blind to come and camp us.  They hung that Fortizar citadel on the same grid as our undock.

The Fortizar looms

The Fortizar looms

Then the rest of the MBC started showing up.  More citadels were hung in space around our home station, the Quafe Company Warehouse at Saranen V, moon 9, with Darkness and Mercenary Coalition adding their own to the scene.

You can see three Fortizars on grid now

You can see three Fortizars on grid now

Even TEST hung one up, though they didn’t join the club fully, opting for an Astrahus directly above the station.

Key players declared war on us, so as to take station guns… which will shoot aggressors on the undock… out of the equation.

Not pictured: TEST, which was late on the scene

Not pictured: TEST, which was late on the scene

The MBC settled in to camp us into our station in Saranen.

Singing songs around the campfire

Singing songs around the campfire

(image from this thread)

In their effort to defeat us, our enemy has had to become us.  As the CFC/Imperium had often been called Band of Brothers 2.0, the Moneybadgers have begun to look a bit like the CFC 2.0.  We have a coalition with overwhelming force made up of mutually blued alliances which hold the north… you have to be in denial not to see some parallel there.

Meanwhile, our groan worthy name for the conflict, the War of Sovless Aggression, had flipped meaning as well, since we are now without sovereignty and attacking those who hold it.  I didn’t like that name before, and it hasn’t aged well for me since.  I’ll stick with the Casino War, which goes back to the flash point that started the whole conflict back in January.

Over at EN24, it was announced that we were being “Hellcamped” nearly a week ago.  And then a few days later it was announced at EN24 that the siege had begun.  The MBC was going to sit on the undock in Saranen and… something.  Kill us I guess.  Make us give up, maybe?

On our side of the divide the loss of all our sovereignty has had an upside.  We have become something else as well.  As Asher Elias noted in his latest podcast, we are free to choose our fights now as opposed to being objective driven all the time.  If the enemy is out in force, we don’t give them a fight.  If they get bored and their camp of the undock dwindles… and this is why they are not the CFC 2.0, because the CFC of old didn’t get bored so easily… we undock and chase them off.

If the enemy puts an expensive bait ship on the undock, we can flash form and kill it before they can bring in their response fleet to reply.  With no objectives to defend, we get to measure our success in ISK efficiency, in causing more damage to our enemies than they do to us.  And when the enemy forms up their might to overwhelm us, we dock up again and the fight is over.

This hasn’t been ideal for everybody.  People who joined up to do null sec PvE are justifiably dissatisfied with the situation and have been leaving for greener pastures.  And I cannot imagine that the capital ship pilots are happy.  But for layabout subcap line members like myself, who barely lived in their own space when we had it and just want to fleet up and shoot things while suckling on the SRP teat, the situation has been almost ideal.  We could easily echo some of TEST’s post 6VDT-H sentiments.

Which isn’t to say that the MBC doesn’t get kills as well.  The fights are often bloody for both sides, and we generally win on ISK efficiency alone, having exchanged a pile of cheap ships for a few expensive ones.  And they own the undock when they want to and are able to pick off even those with insta-undock bookmarks with fighters now and again.

The question now seems to be who can outlast whom in this situation?

For the moment I lean towards us.  We are able to undock when we can win and get the sort of morale boosting fights that can sustain us while also keeping the supply train flowing into the station to make good our losses.  Even if we lose our citadel and the convenience that goes with it… a scenario which seems likely… we can still pick and choose our fights.

Our foes seem to have three courses going forward.

They can give up, which clearly isn’t a winning strategy.  I doubt that will seem viable to anybody in the short term, though there could be a long game possibility in it I suppose.

They can carry on as they are now and see who gets tired of this first.  That hasn’t been a winning strategy so far in Saranen, but tactics could change.  They might find their angle with the current level of effort.

Or they can try harder.

One way would be to sit on the undock with more forces more often.  Or, alternatively, they can use their economic muscle to buy up our doctrine contracts to keep us from re-shipping, denude the market in Jita of Harpies, Hurricanes, and the fittings that sustain us.  With all that IWantISK money behind them, they could starve us out by simply making everything too expensive for us.  I do not think we can out spend them head-on on that front.  The problems there are the Jita market and how much ISK it might take to conquer us via that route, especially when we can trade out doctrines.

Anyway, as I keep saying, the war goes on.  Saranen remains a busy place judging from the kill boards.  And, to go with the title, some screen shots from around the Saranen undock, including that bling fit Phoenix we got last night.

5 thoughts on “Scenes from the Saranen Undock

  1. Kissemus

    It may not be why line members fight, but the overall goal is to prevent goons from taking space in 2016 and possibly longer.

    Right now the situation is pretty good for the line members though, I mean, horde doesn’t care who it’s fighting as long as it has 24/7 fleets with content. Test is still enjoying the vengeance and humiliation bit and PL is still being paid.

    So all in all its going pretty well, and it’ll last a while.

    I don’t think you can compare it to CFC or BoB though, because it’ll all break apart the moment the common enemy goes away.

    The old CFC is broken and while I doubt the martini goons will ever break, they are rapidly approaching irrelevancy.


  2. Chaosrook

    Reminds me of post World War II Germany…and Air lifts. Also makes me think about some of The sword of Truth Series where the war against enumerable odds saw the defenders of good split up and go into the territory of the evil empire to demoralize the empires people. Maybe you could start hitting them at home guerilla fashion. The idea is to disrupt their way of life. Not sure it would take much, a few throw away loses to agitate…phantom fleets that pop in and strike just so that they have to form up in their own back yard and such. You know the game much better than I…are there economic targets you can hit in those coalition members territories?

    Can covert Ops fitted Ships get past these blockades to resupply your station?


  3. Wilhelm Arcturus Post author

    @Chaosrook – Since it is a low security space system, the MBC is denied some of the tools they might otherwise use to enforce a blockade, especially warp disruption bubbles. So even if the blockade is up in force for the moment, you can still slip into the station using one of the insta-dock bookmarks we have. Slipping out can be a little more difficult if they have setup capitals on the undock to bump you out of your warp align, but it can be done reliably.


  4. Hordling

    Not CFC 2.0. Most MBC corps have already been reset to Horde in the past week. They get a free pass if they are on the way to Saranen to harass goons but otherwise we attack em. Looks like the North is headed to become Querilous 2.0, the new fightclub.

    Seems like the easy solution for the individual goon pilot is to join horde and go back to living in Fade. Problem solved.

    If Mittens was on his game, he’d bribe Grobbins 10T for his account and transfer all sovereignty and citadels to Goonswarm. Either that, or just have every goon join Horde and then do some spy shit and take it over, I’m pretty sure most goons already have an alt in Horde.

    I recommend if you haven’t done it already, make an alt and join Horde. We’ll give you free ships to fly around in. Free ships up front beat SRP every day of the week. Then you can write an article about your “behind the lines” spy and sabotage activities. Of course, you’ll have to blow up a few goons along the way, just so your cover isn’t blown, but if you’re making omelets a few eggs are bound to be broken.


  5. Wilhelm Arcturus Post author

    @Hordling – Well, there is resetting and there is behaving as if there really has been reset. I personally saw PH and GotG fleets cooperating up in Deklein last night. So a reset that is “except when The Imperium is anywhere close” looks like a pretty dubious reset from our end of the table. Basically you hunt each others ratters if you have a free moment. And there are still groups who will never unblue, like the aforementioned GotG coalition.

    I actually thought about putting an alt in PH just for fun. However, I don’t have the time to do that AND go on fleet ops on our end. I decided to just focus on helping our end.

    And who says we don’t get free ships? I got one just last night!

    Addendum: Ah, here are your orders regarding standings. Two alliances doesn’t really qualify as “most” does it?

    Standings reset

    We have reset Darkness and Tishu and are enjoying some increase in local content. As for rules of engagement go as follows:
    If you are a bean, just listen to the FC about what you should or should not shoot.
    If you are an FC, feel free to brawl against frenemies and even hunt their ratters, however try to avoid blopsing, cloaky camping, and fucking with frenemies while they are busy with a stratop, basically avoid dick moves.
    Avoid hitting moons or sov from the frenemies.

    If participating in the Saranen camp, shoot goons / CFC only.


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