Who Gets Banned for Botting in New Eden?

Renters?  Is the answer Renters?

CCP Peligro posted a chart to Twitter yesterday showing the top 25 alliances by amount of users banned for botting.  And the list was heavy with organizations that rent null sec space.

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There are a lot of familiar names on that list, not to mention some old one.  That data is for all time, since alliances were introduced into EVE Online.

One omission from the top 25 that no doubt will make some people upset is Goonswarm Federation, which so many angry people accuse of botting, RMT, and whatever else because that is what they want to believe as opposed to having any actual evidence.  GSF not making the list unsurprisingly made The Mittani a bit self-righteous.

CCP Peligro cautions on taking this data for more than it might mean.

BEING ON THIS LIST DOESN’T MEAN YOUR ALLIANCE IS FILLED WITH BOTS NOW – data from EVEstart. The only point I’ll make here is that 0.0 and in particular rental alliances have been disproportionately represented in bot bans for as long as I can remember.

Of course, we’ve been told this before, that rental alliances, by their very nature, attract botters.  They are not beholding to the landlord, or watched over, so long as the rent is on time.  The Team Security presentation from the 2015 EVE Fanfest had a similar chart when it came to bots.

EVE Fanfest 2015 Team Security Presentation – Page 30

No names were named back in 2015, and the data was for just a ten month period of time, but the caption to the left indicates that the the top three were well known renter alliances, and you don’t have to look very hard at the influence map to pick them out.

EVE Influence Map – March 30, 2015

I’m going to guess Northern Associates, Shadow of xXDEATHXx, and the Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere.  This was back when null sec was a trilateral mix of rental empires.  That map, at the end of the data set for the presentation, is from more than a year after I describe it in terms of the world of 1984, but many of the same players are on the map.

Which means that if you want to find bots today it seems like your best chance would be to go where there is still rental space in play.

Of course, if you look at the heat maps from that 2015 presentation that show where botters were caught, you might think high sec space would be a more fruitful location.

EVE Fanfest 2015 Team Security Presentation – Page 39

More high sec exceptionalism.  The Forge, Lonetrek, Domain, and Tash-Murkon look to the be biggest locations.  But I guess if you are botting in high sec then you are in an NPC corporation and won’t appear on the alliance chart.  So does that mean the answer isn’t “renters” but “randos” instead?

Meanwhile Reddit is alive with various tales and accusations as to who supports botting and who is responsible for policing it.  The potential for further fallout seems high.

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4 thoughts on “Who Gets Banned for Botting in New Eden?

  1. Wilhelm Arcturus Post author

    @anypo8 – When you have to ask if they are being ironic or advertising. BoT has been around for ages too. PL sold it off to NCDot and then later started another rental alliance, Rate My Ticks (ticker: WERMT). So at least they had a theme going I suppose. I am not sure what they are up to these days. It still appears to be active.

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  2. Nosy Gamer

    I’m going to guess that the top three back in 2015 were Shadow of xXDEATHXx, Northern Associates., and Brothers of Tangra. The GSF rental alliance was still relatively new and people didn’t really trust Goons not to blow them up or scam them back then. Also, I don’t know the names of the 3 alliances. I didn’t ask.


  3. Wilhelm Arcturus Post author

    @Nosy Gamer – Yeah, I remember that. There was a lot of internal conflict about not being able to run rental scams, the way there was when they had to stop doing recruitment scams when KarmaFleet became a thing. There were some old school Goons who were very angry about both of those changes. I mostly picked the Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere because it was bigger on that map than Brothers of Tangra and because it got mentioned in CCP Peligro’s tweet. But it just re-opened in Period Basis recently so I am going to guess people saw it as a fresh new location to bot… and paid the price.


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