Daily Archives: October 12, 2020

Fourteen Weeks of World War Bee

hey guys just got back from my vacation did anything happen while i was out this week?

-Ping from The Mittani late Sunday afternoon

After things seemed to be moving slowly the week before, last week the war heated up as the invaders attempted to plant their flag in Delve by dropping two Keepstars in FWST-8.

Even CCP took notice of the fights this week and produced a new video about them for The Scope.

So I guess Delve is now in the front lines and on the front pages.

Delve Front

The focus of the war was on the NPC Delve system of FWST-8 for the first few days of the week.  PAPI member alliance Fraternity dropped a Keepstar in that system early on Monday in an attempt to give the invading forces a foothold from which they could jump capital ships into most of the systems in the region.

NPC Delve and vicinity

That led the Imperium to drop dreadnoughts and subcaps in a constant stream to destroy it, sacrificing almost a trillion ISK in ships to destroy the structure as it deployed.

Fraternity then dropped a second Keepstar a couple of hours later, which managed to deploy and get into its anchoring cycle, giving both sides a day to get ready for the next battle.  There the Imperium sacrificed over 1.5 trillion ISK in ships over about 15 hours in order to destroy the second Keepstar.

The next day saw multiple skirmishes in the system as both sides attempted to extract ships that had logged off during the fight.  There were two major clashes, with the Imperium doing better in one and TAPI taking the other one according to the ISK numbers.

FWST-8 was a busy system for a few days.

Ships destroyed over four days

The Imperium claimed victory because it achieved its objective, destroying both Keepstars, and preventing TAPI for securing a base within Delve.

TAPI is justifiably happy with destroying so many Imperium ships, winning the the ISK war by a huge margin.  That margin is inflated on battle reports by the fact that neither Keepstar, valued at ~187 billion ISK each, generated a kill mail.

Both sides got a victory condition and the war moved on.

Of course, arguing about who won and gratuitous moving of goal posts ensued over at /r/eve.  Unhappy with just an ISK war victory a few of the usual suspects proceeded to argue that the Imperium really lost the objective because they didn’t escalate to supers, because they didn’t kill any PAPI titans, or because they didn’t hell camp the battle site to kill any logged off PAPI pilots as they returned to try and extract.

I really like that last one.  PAPI out numbers the Imperium 3 to 1, but we’re supposed to be able to camp them.

And then there was TEST streamer and propagandist RonUSMC who, salty as usual, bitched on his stream that whatever Goons did to kill the Keepstar needs to be nerfed.  People complain about blobbing being an “I win” button until they try and fail at it I guess.

Ron waiting for the Imperium titans that never showed up

The Imperium was able to fall back on winning the objective, that we had to fight on their Keepstar, and how the battle demonstrated our determination to defend the region.  But I am sure we were feeling lucky that TAPI did not drop another Keepstar immediately because losing something like 8,000 ships in two days no doubt drained a lot of our supply chain.

In fact, TAPI not dropping another Keepstar immediately feels like a mistake, a missed opportunity to put the pressure on us, or at least force an escalation to the supers and titans clash they seemed to be longing for.  We were reeling a bit after having lost all those ships.  However, the other side might have been as exhausted as we were.  In war you sometimes see only the enemy’s strength and your own weakness.

Meanwhile, since people love dollar amounts, I did a back of the napkin calculation as to how much these battles “cost” in losses.

Losses were about 3 trillion ISK.  With PLEX running at about 3 million ISK per, that meant there was about 1 million PLEX in losses.  If you buy PLEX in the largest lot, 15,400 PLEX for $500, that totals up to $32,500.  Probably not enough for a headline in the mainstream gaming press.

While it wasn’t the “Million Dollar Battle,” the two together were at least the “Million PLEX Battles.”

Having been rebuffed in NPC Delve, focus seemed to go back to ihubs as they managed to reinforce their first ihub in Delve, in SVM-3K.  But when it came time for the rubber to meet the road, the passed on actually contesting the ihub.

Instead they dropped another Keepstar, this time in 319-3D.  It met the same fate as the previous two.

So three Keepstars have now died in Delve, but none of them belonged to the Imperium.

Other Areas

While the fights in FWST-8 were going on, both sides sent out side missions to try and hack ihubs.  The Bastion, one of the Imperium alliances, succeeded in taking multiple ihubs in TEST space.

The Bastion in Esoteria

TEST couldn’t let that stand and have since managed  to claw back two of the lost systems, but they had to spend time doing that when the could have been attacking Delve.

My Participation

I jumped into battle and lost many a ship last week, all in and around the Keepstar battles as FWST-8.  I was only an observer in the first battle, where I lost two ships, and an active participant in the second, where I lost six more.  For the battle in 319-3D, despite being on grid for three hours straight, I lost no ships.  It was a minor miracle.

It actually felt like I lost more ships that in the second battle at FWST-8, but that was probably due to how slowly everything was moving, so it took a long time to lose a ship and then get your pod popped so you could work on getting back into the fight.  I really want to thank the PAPI gate camp in PR-8CA for podding me quickly when I jumped in.  That sped up my return home every time.

Anyway, my loss count for the war is now:

  • Ares interceptor – 11
  • Rokh battleship – 5
  • Atron entosis frigate – 5
  • Ferox battle cruiser – 3
  • Drake entosis battle cruiser – 3
  • Purifier stealth bomber – 2
  • Guardian logi – 2
  • Malediction interceptor – 2
  • Scalpel logi frigate – 2
  • Crucifier ECM frigate – 1
  • Gnosis ratting battlecruiser – 1
  • Scimitar logi – 1
  • Bifrost entosis command destroyer – 1
  • Cormorant destroyer – 1
  • Hurricane battle cruiser – 1
  • Sigil entosis industrial – 1

Other Items

CCP also mentioned on Twitter that they were notifying Guinness World Records about the recent fight as its totals exceeded the numbers that previously saw Guinness award CCP a record.  I certainly saw more that 6,142 people in local during the fight.

6,446 in local

On the other hand, the EVE Online chat system isn’t a reliable source so far as I have seen, so no doubt CCP has another method to validate exactly how many people were participating at the peak of the battle.  In the video they said the number was 6,557.  We shall see if the Guinness World Records staff will certify that.

And then there is the weekly PCU count:

  • Day 1 – 38,838
  • Week 1 – 37,034
  • Week 2 – 34,799
  • Week 3 – 34,692
  • Week 4 – 35,583
  • Week 5 – 35,479
  • Week 6 – 34,974
  • Week 7 – 38,299
  • Week 8 – 35,650
  • Week 9 – 35,075
  • Week 10 – 35,812
  • Week 11 – 35,165
  • Week 12 – 36,671
  • Week 13 – 35,618
  • Week 14 – 39,681

It looks like having a Keepstar battle on a Sunday during prime time might be a good thing.  Or maybe people were on poking at the Triglavian systems in order to see what was going on there.  Either way, we hit the highest PCU so far for the war.  Not quite to 40K again, but within spitting distance.

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