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Introducing Your CSM13 Representatives

The voting ended on Monday, the ballot boxes were as stuffed as they were going to get, and, with no real venue or event going on to carry the announcement, CCP went to Twitch to broadcast the winners of the election.

Space elections are serious business…

Those on CSM13 fall into two groups.  First there are the incumbents.  Basically, anybody who was on CSM12 and who ran again made the cut.  Seven incumbents ran and they were:

  • Aryth – Goonswarm Federation
  • Innominate – Goonswarm Federation
  • Sort Dragon – Darkness
  • The Judge – Goonswarm Federation
  • Jin’taan – Red Noise (formerly of CVA and TEST)
  • Suitonia – The Felines of the Egg of the Lisa
  • Steve Ronuken – Fuzzwork Enterprises

Aryth, at the top of the Imperium ballot, was also the biggest vote getter.  Sort Dragon, who was substituted in when Vince Draken was removed last year, managed to make the cut on his own this time.  Meanwhile, proving that betrayal is no barrier to success, The Judge managed to make it back on the council as well.

That leaves the three new people on the CSM, who were:

  • Killah Bee – Northern Coalition
  • Merkelchen – Goonswarm Federation
  • Brisc Rubal – The Initiative

That gives you all ten members of CSM13.

The CSM 13 Winners

As you can see, null sec dominated the vote even more than usual, with only two players outside of 0.0 making the cut.

For those keeping track, 7 out of 10 people on the Imperium ballot (which I posted here with the full candidate list) made it onto the CSM this year, with only Mawderator, Sullen Decimus, and Commander Aze left out.  However, some of the people on the Imperium ballot had or built constituencies outside of the Imperium.  Still, the top four players on the Imperium ballot made it, which was one more than I really thought would. (I do wonder how many people outside of the Imperium voted for The Judge.)

On the stream CCP Guard said that there was a total of 29,417 votes, down a bit from the 31,274 that were cast for CSM12.  He attributed this in part in that no direct mailing went out during the election as none were slated the one week time frame of the election.  You can see where the CSM13 number stacks up historically.

Number of Votes Cast – CSM 1 through CSM 12

CCP Guard said that there will be a full dev blog about the election published, most likely tomorrow, with all of the voting data so you can check for yourself how things played out.  I will add a link to this post when that goes up.

CCP Guard on the stream

CCP Guard did say that Tikktokk Tokkzikk of Pandemic Legion appeared to be in 11th place, so if somebody needs to be replaced during the term, that will likely be who steps in.

In the mean time CCP is still working on getting the server back up.  The game has been down for a while now today.

Addendum: The server is now back up.  It seems that those faction Fortizars were a problem.

Addendum 2: The dev blog with the full voting details has been posted.

Election Time! Get out the Vote for CSM 13

The annual stuffing of virtual ballot boxes kicked off today at 12:00 UTC

The time to vote is now

CCP has a post up with instructions and links as to how to vote.  If you want to go straight to voting you can go here and login.  Or if you want to see the candidates, the official list is here, but I would recommend a visit to CSM Wire for a more detailed look.

As for who to vote for, that is always the question.  We got our first look at the candidates back at EVE Fanfest almost two month back.  Since then they have had time to campaign.

The CSM13 candidate list

The ballot will present you with 47 candidates in a random sort order.  But who should you vote for?  That is always the question.

Greasy pole political metaphor in stair form

I thought this year I would list out the candidates by where they call home, just to see who represents what.  Even with a reduction in the number of candidates this year, I still don’t recognize most of them, even some in my coalition.

These lists are based on what organization the candidate calls home for the most part.  They can say whatever they want on their platform, but this is where they are from.  Those with an asterisk are CSM12 incumbents.

Null Sec – 31 Candidates

  • Afropty – Darkness
  • Aryth* – Goonswarm Federation
  • aspecialpinecone – Iron Armada
  • bastet 666 – Legion of xXDEATHXx
  • Bei ArtJay – Unspoken Alliance
  • Brisc Rubal – The Initiative
  • Cacique Yuhasz – TEST
  • Carbon Alabel – CVA
  • Commander Aze – The Bastion
  • Creecher Virpio – TEST [Removed by CCP June 8, 2018]
  • Cwittofur Cesaille – Da Imbalance
  • Damian Blackie – Fraternity
  • Innominate* – Goonswarm Federation
  • Jin’taan* – TEST
  • Kali Omega – Chaos Theory
  • Killah Bee – NCDot
  • Malakai Asamov – NCDot
  • Mawderator – Snuffed Out
  • Merkelchen – Goonswarm Federation
  • Otto Bismarck – Tactical Supremacy
  • Parobro – Chaos Theory
  • Raphendyr Nardieu – Suddenly Content
  • Solar Taranogas – The Watchmen
  • Sort Dragon* – Darkness
  • Sullen Decimus – The Bastion
  • The Judge* – Goonswarm Federation
  • The Ludocrat – Goonswarm Federation
  • Tikktokk Tokkzikk – Pandemic Legion
  • Winter duFallen – Pandemic Horde
  • Xenuria – Goonswarm Federation
  • ZepWunderbar – Tactical Narcotics Team

While there may be 17 fewer candidates than there were last year, the numbers from 0.0 space seem as strong as ever.  Clearly null sec still believes that the CSM is important.  Or maybe it is that people who go to play our there enjoy diplomacy, deals, and sandbox politics.  But if you used you’re votes at random you would be more likely than not to vote for somebody who calls null sec their home.

Wormhole – 5 Candidates

  • Arielle en Distel – Signal Cartel
  • Claevyan – Surrounded by Wormholes
  • ExookiZ – Scary Wormhole People
  • Razorblade92 – Stranger Danger
  • Tifida – Outlaws

Not so many from wormhole space, but at least Signal Cartel is on the list.

Low Sec – 5 Candidates

  • Chainsaw Plankton – FaDoyToy
  • Kalen Tsero – Kalen Tsero
  • Saint Michaels Soul – Villore Accords
  • Silver Suspiria – Federation Uprising
  • Suitonia* – The Felines of the Egg of the Lisa

Low sec is always a strange beast, being in empire space and having factional warfare.  But it still gets a few candidates every year wanting to step up to represent it.

High Sec – 4 Candidates

  • Eurzadahn – Ikusaro
  • Lorelei Ierendi – Lorelei for C S M
  • Steve Ronuken* – Fuzzwork Enterprises
  • Syncopee Farnsworth – The Architects

High sec remains an outpost of the solo player, where it is hard to build a power base for an election.  While I haven’t done a head to head comparison, it feels like this is where the candidate list fell off a bit when compared to last year.

Other – 2 Candidates

  • Jaha Preynar – EVE University
  • Vincent Eneticum – Deep Core Mining Inc

I was not sure where to put these two since their organization didn’t really match or had changed since their candidacy was announced.

Anyway, that is my attempt to break out the candidate list in some meaningful way.  Again, if you wish to research the candidates in detail and read/hear their own words, the CSM Wire site has candidates information, statements, and links to interviews.

My own personal view is to beware the single issue candidate.  In watching from afar and talking to a few CSM members at EVE Vegas, a candidate going in with very narrow goals thinking they are going to change the game are likely to be ineffective.  As has been discussed before, the CSM lacks agency.  They cannot DO anything and CCP is free to ignore them, which they have demonstrated their willingness to do in the past.  CCP has referred to the CSM as a “governing body” previously (see the EVE Online timeline), but that is nonsense.  On a good day the CSM is a focus group with enough experience with the game to point out issues with CCP’s plans.  But I’ve been a critic of the idea of players electing the CSM since the idea was announced a decade back.

And so it goes.

Meanwhile, over in the Imperium we have been given our marching orders, with the recommended ballot posted yesterday.

  1. Aryth
  2. Merkelchen
  3. Innominate
  4. The Judge
  5. Brisc Rubal
  6. Mawderator
  7. Sullen Decimus
  8. Commander Aze
  9. Jin’Taan
  10. Steve Ronuken

I will be voting that in the name of self-interest, which is the same reason anybody votes.

The Imperium has enough voting power that the first two are pretty much a given to be elected unless something goes seriously wrong.  Innominate has a decent chance of returning to the CSM as well.  After that, however, candidates had best have a support base outside of the coalition in order to keep them in the running.  Jin’Taan and Steve Ronuken are very likely to make the cut as well, having their own support base elsewhere, which leaves six seats in question.

Anyway, the election ends on June 11 at 12:00 UTC.  You must vote by then or you won’t get to vote at all.  All Omega accounts can vote, so it you have multiple accounts subscribed you can log in each one and cast a ballot.

Finally, one last plug for the CSM Wire site if you want to do some candidate research.

CSM13 Elections to be Held June 4 to 11

After announcing the list of of official candidates and little more, CCP put out a dev blog today that finally gave us the official dates for the CSM 13 election.

Coming to a virtual space voting booth this June…

From the post:

The election will run for one week, from 12 noon UTC (EVE Time) on 4 June – 12 noon UTC on 11 June.

As they announced back in February the duration of the election itself will be shorter than usual. That is considerably less time than the CSM 12 election, which ran from March 2nd to the 27th last year, but still more time that they gave candidates to register for CSM 13 earlier this year.

The stated reason for shortening the election run was that most people vote on the first day or the last day, with little play in between.

The election will be open to all Omega accounts, so if you have multiple accounts you can vote early and often.  The candidate list was given to us back at Fanfest.

The CSM13 candidate list

That probably isn’t much help, even if you click on the picture to view it full size.  However, as the dev blog points out, Nosy Gamer has his CSM Wire site up to date.  You can go there to read what is known about each candidate.  Or you can go look at the official candidate list.

The original estimate was that the election would happen sometime in the April/May time frame, but things will get pushed out.

The CSM 13 time line that we have so far:

  • Applications are open – March 19 to 23
  • Application processing – March 23 to April 11
  • Candidates for CSM 13 announced – EVE Fanfest, April 12-14
  • Voting – June 4-11
  • Election Results Announced – Some point shortly after the elections close
  • Summer – CSM 13 onboarding & orientation
  • CSM 13 Summit 1 – September (likely dates are Sept 3-6)
  • CSM 13 Summit 2 – February

Now that we know when voting will commence we have an idea how much longer candidates have to inject themselves into the consciousness of the electorate.

CSM13 – Hurry Up and Register Your Candidacy!

The first major phase of the CSM13 election season is about to commence.

Coming to a space election near you…

The window of time when you can register yourself as a candidate in the election starts soon.

As mentioned in my Road to CSM13 post earlier this month, the timeline for the election has changed, including the window to register for the ballot.  What was previously a two week window of time has been shrunk to just about four day, running from March 19th through the 23rd.

Now that sounds like five days, but it really isn’t  The registration process won’t be open and accepting entries until 12:00 UTC on the 19th according to CCP.  That is half a day gone.  And, at the far end, CCP has also said that registrations will close at 12:00 on Friday, which is another half a day shaved off.

So you only have a full four days in which to register.

I asked why they tightened up that part of the process so much, expecting to hear something akin to their argument about why they are also making the window for voting small, that most of the action tends to happen on the first day or the last day, so a long middle period isn’t all that necessary.

Instead the answer I got was that they wanted people to be able to start campaigning as soon as possible, something that seemed increasingly nonsensical the more I thought about it.

There won’t be an official ballot until Fanfest, which is coming mid-April, which will be the marking point as to who really is a candidate and who is not.  Anybody can campaign before then, and some already are, so shortening the registration period seems like an ineffectual way to extend campaigning.  Maybe they just want to cut down the list of candidates by making the window smaller.

Anyway, if you want to run, be ready to register before 12:00 UTC on March 23rd.

Meanwhile, as a reminded, here is the CXM13 election schedule as we know it so far:

  • Applications are open – March 19 to 23
  • Application processing – March 23 to April 11
  • Candidates for CSM 13 are announced – FANFEST (April 12-14)
  • Voting will take place late April/May – Dates will be announced later in a separate blog
  • Spring/Summer – CSM 13 onboarding & orientation
  • CSM 13 Summit 1 – September (likely dates are Sept 3-6)
  • CSM 13 Summit 2 – February

The Road to CSM13

Back in early February we learned that one of the outcomes of the Winter summit was a list of changes to the CSM election process.  In summary:

  • Move the CSM elections to a point later in the year
  • Increase the amount of time for campaigns
  • Reduce the actual time spent voting
  • Announce the results sooner

The reasoning behind them is covered in the link above.  Now CCP has followed up to fill in some of the details as to how this will play out.

Coming to a space election near you…

The plan so far:

  • Applications are open – March 19 to 23
  • Application processing – March 23 to April 11
  • Candidates for CSM 13 are announced – FANFEST (April 12-14)
  • Voting will take place late April/May – Dates will be announced later in a separate blog
  • Spring/Summer – CSM 13 onboarding & orientation
  • CSM 13 Summit 1 – September (likely dates are Sept 3-6)
  • CSM 13 Summit 2 – February

I am going to say, up front, that the application period seems pretty short.  I am not sure that was part of the original plan, or something new to cut down on the number of candidates, but last year the application period ran for two weeks, February 3 to 17.  14 days to 4 days is more than a bit of a cut.

It seems like the second step, processing all those crazy applications, could be trimmed back a bit to allow more time for applications, since that only took two weeks last time around.  Or they could just start accepting them earlier.

I actually went and asked about this on the forum thread setup to discuss this.  Of course, I showed up to as a question about the process only to find a thread mired knee deep in the usual debates about the CSM and CCP and how things should be.  Welcome to EVE Online.

I was wondering if, as with the voting aspect of the process, they might have some insider insight.  Maybe almost everybody who runs applies on the first day anyway, so the two week window wasn’t really helping anybody.

Surprisingly, to me at least because my expectations, as set by the industry as a whole, are to never expect to hear anything ever about any comment or question, CCP Guard responded and said that the window for applications wasn’t felt to be as important as the actual notice and run up time to get things in order.

Then I pointed out that last year, from announcement to the final day of applications, players had 40 days while this year it was only 24 days, and that was all I heard about that as the thread continued to be people complaining about various aspects of the CSM, like the NDA requirement.

Anyway, beyond that we’re back on track again, with the candidates being announced at Fanfest.

After that things get a bit vague.  The plan was to have a longer campaign season followed by a shorter span for actual voting.  Again looking at last year, the time between candidates being announced and when voting began was about a week, after which voting ran on for three weeks.

If they reverse that ratio April seems unlikely as far as the start of voting.  I would guess that, allowing for a 3 to 4 week campaigning period to get us all completely bored with space politics, we might be looking at the election starting on May 6 or May 13.

And after that we’ll get some election results, presumably much more quickly than last year, and then the newly elected CSM13 can start in on all of their CSM-y things while people complain about the results and null sec winning too many seats.

Anyway, if you want to run have your passport handy and meet the following criteria:

  • Your account must be older than 60 days at the time candidacy applications close.
  • Characters on both Alpha and Omega accounts are eligible to run.
  • You must have a history of honoring the EULA and the Terms of Service. We will screen every applicant thoroughly and EULA/TOS violations on your record can result in a rejected application.
  • Your account must have updated and correct information at the time of your application. This includes; your real life name, correct date of birth and the same email you use to submit your application. To view and edit this information go to the account management website.
  • Candidates must have reached 18 years of age. If the legal adult age in your home country (the age at which you have the legal capacity to enter into a contract) is higher than 18, that number applies instead.
  • As an applicant, you must consent to provide your personal details to CCP, including your real name and a copy of your passport. CCP needs to affirm your real life identity for NDA contract purposes and the ability to travel to summits in Iceland is a key function of the CSM.
  • If you do not currently have a valid passport, we will accept a picture/scan of a valid and approved passport application accompanied with a picture of your driver‘s license.
  • You must consent to sharing your country of origin with the EVE Community and having it displayed on the EVE Online website. You will not be required to share any other personal information with the EVE community.
  • If you are running as an “alt” and you control a character that has a reputation in the EVE universe, CCP may require you to run under that identity at its full discretion.

Then follow directions on the dev blog to apply to be a candidate.

CCP and Proposed Changes to CSM Elections

CCP announced yesterday that the minutes from the CSM12 Winter Summit are now available for your perusal.

CSM12 still rolling along

The minutes, as always, seem as much a tool to irritate as to inform.  That is just the nature of the beast.  The minutes are a brief record… in 77 pages… of people talking about EVE Online, do people actually doing anything about it.  And the CCP people often respond to ideas or questions in the same way, that they’ve discussed or thought about this or that, but never had time or never got to it.

Because there is the reality of software development; you always have more ideas than time and everything always takes longer than you think.  If, sitting on the outside looking in, you think something should be easy… like, say, remove the DUST514 references from the chat windows… it is probably because you lack the knowledge surrounding it.

So they are there, read them, mine out the few chunks of data, try to read the tea leaves that form the rest, and move on.  Exploding on the forums probably won’t help anything, but if it will make you feel better you can join in.

One item to which CCP decided attention to in their dev blog post was a proposed change up to the CSM elections.  As somebody who has never been a fan of the players electing a focus group… I called the whole thing the Galactic Student Council nearly a decade back… changes in the election process often strike me as rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic; the new layout may be nice, but it isn’t going to change the end result.

In the case of the CSM, popularity or being the candidate of an organized group, as opposed to deep game knowledge, wins.  And, of course, null sec is the most organized out of necessity, so guess who is pretty much guaranteed to secure at least half the seats?  So that we get anybody with deep knowledge of aspects of the game is as much chance as anything, though we don’t seem to have as many vanity candidates winning recently.  It seems that people eventually figured out what a “free trip to Iceland” really meant.

Not that I think deep knowledge could change things or “make” CCP do anything.  I like to imagine new, dewy-eyed and determined CSM members showing up in Iceland set to change things and walking away ashen faced like they just got a tour of Voronezh Meat Packing Plant #12.  As with sausages, it is probably best that you not look to hard at how software is made.

Anyway, I digress.

The changes being proposed are, as I read them:

  • Move the CSM elections to a point later in the year
  • Increase the amount of time for campaigns
  • Reduce the actual time spent voting
  • Announce the results sooner

The first point seems to come from the experience of the current CSM members who felt that after Fan Fest, when development starts to slow down a bit as summer vacations begin, would be a better time to bring new members on board.  I don’t think it is a CSM12 conspiracy to extend their own tenure for a couple months, but you never know.

The second, extending the time from when we know the official candidate list through until voting begins, seems to be rooted in the charming belief that the people who aren’t paying attention and who never vote might change their minds if only there was more time to try to distinguish between the huge grid of avatars from which they get to select.

The third point, reducing the actual duration of voting, seems to contradict the above, but really what it means is that CCP has data on actual voting as opposed to campaigning.  They say most people vote on the first day or the last day, basically those were were aching to vote and those who said, “Oh crap, I’d better vote!”  That seems to make sense, but I am sure somebody will cry “voter suppression” over the proposed change.

And then there are the results, which CCP knows pretty much straight away, but which they sit on for weeks and weeks so they can announce them at Fan Fest.  I guess we’ll just have to do without that particular aspect of Fan Fest which, as somebody who will only ever see Fan Fest over a live stream, works for me.

So sure.  Make the changes.  I strongly suspect that they won’t alter the expected outcome and will just give the same people who complain every year about the same things regarding the elections another bullet point or two for their list as we roll on into CSM 13.

CCP Asks Vince Draken to Step Down from CSM12

CCP has asked CSM member Vince Draken to step down due to not being able to devote sufficient time to the council. Lack of activity can have valid reasons and we’re parting with Vince on good terms and with mutual understanding. CCP holds the obligation to ensure a fully engaged CSM at any given time which is why we are looking towards a substitute for the remainder of the term.

-CCP Guard, CSM Update

After the roller coaster rides of CSM9 and CSM10, with the leaks, the removals, and the recriminations, the two following councils have been quiet, almost dignified affairs.  CSM12 has been pretty quiet since its election earlier this year.

Round 12 in progress!

And even now, in the chill of the the last two councils, this barely qualifies as CSM drama.  The joke is that playing EVE Online seriously is like having a second job, and adding the CSM to your list gives you at least another part time job on top of the two you likely have.  So Vince Draken, already the leader of Northern Coalition, probably has enough on his plate already.  He’ll miss out on a week of sitting in a conference room in Iceland talking about various aspects of the game.

Meanwhile, there is a position to be filled.  CCP has said the following:

We will be calling in a substitute using the previously stated method of filling the spot with the last candidate eliminated in the election (the next in line without any recalculation of vote distribution). We’ll start there and go down the line if needed until someone accepts the spot and we will make another announcement once this is concluded.

Over at INN they quickly reported that the next in line for the seat is Sort Dragon, leader of the Darkness alliance.  Sort Dragon previously served on CSM10.

If Sort Dragon declines, next in line are Kalbuir Skirate of Pandemic Horde, followed by Killah Bee of Pandemic Legion, thus effectively keeping the seat both in the hands of a null sec representative and a member of the PanFam/NC/GotG coalition.  CCP will announce who will replace Vince Draken when they find somebody down the list who will take the job.

If none of those three take up the mantle, CCP will continue down the elimination trace.  The data they will use is available from the Dev Blog analyzing the CSM12 election results.