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Ten Years of the EVE Blog Pack

I never run out of things to blog about because as time goes on I end up with anniversaries and other milestones about which to write.  So on with another one of those.  This time it is a memory of the EVE Blog Pack.

I pledge allegiance to the pack…

At some point around the May-June 2008 time frame CrazyKinux started emailing some bloggers who wrote about EVE Online about an idea. He had read something about blog packs or some such, an idea that a group of like-minded blogs and bloggers would cooperate, cross-post, cross-link, and otherwise work together to promote each other and our passion of choice.

Being less than two years into my life as a blogger I was keen to join in.  That was back when blogs were almost still a thing and I would expend effort in order to grow my readership.  Heady days.

Having collected a few volunteers, on June 16, 2008 the EVE Blog Pack was proclaimed.

I waited around until July 1, 2008 to run my own post about it, as we were still in the process of settling things, with a couple of last minute swaps in the lineup. But the initial list of blogs was:

  1. A Mule in EVE
  2. Articulated Sky
  3. Bitter Old Noob
  4. Caldari Navy Ibis
  5. CrazyKinux’s Musings
  6. Derekest’s Blog
  7. EVE Newb
  8. EVE-Pirate.com
  9. Flashfresh – A Pirate
  10. Lady in Space
  11. Morphisat’s Blog
  12. Nuyan’s Hangout
  13. Ombeve
  14. Postings from the Edge
  15. The Ancient Gaming Noob
  16. The Littlest Drone
  17. Votrian’s EVE Blog
  18. Warp Drive Active
  19. Winterblink

That list there is a chunk of EVE Online history I suppose. Most of the sites on that list are missing or dormant. Aside from my own site, I think only Morphisat’s Blog has seen a new post this year, with Warp Drive Active following behind with an update in 2017. I’ve left the links in for the sites that still exist in some form.

I am surprised as many still even exist.

(Also check out the playa hosting at Gax Online, another attempt to bring gamers together and do… well… I’m not sure.  But it shut down about a year later.)

There are some self-hosted sites on the list, and more often than not those disappear when the owner loses interest.  Why pay for hosting and a domain name if you’re not going to use them?

Of course, it is CrazyKinux himself whose site gone, the place with a lot of the information about the blog pack and its changes over time.  Fortunately we have the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive, so I can link back to some key items.

My own time in the blog pack was limited. I disappeared from the list then re-appeared before being officially kicked. Removing me from the pack came about because my site wasn’t  (and still is not) dedicated solely to EVE Online.  Admittedly, I write what I damn well please and bristle at any suggestion that I do otherwise.   Also, the pack was limited to a strict number of blogs, eventually 30, to keep it a focused group.  So despite being a founding member, most of my time during the CrazyKinux era was spent as an outsider.

Somewhere down the line the Blog Banters started, a common topic put out about once a month to members of the Blog Pack to write about and cross link to each other. I think I was already out of the pack by the time Blog Banters started. You can tell when I was in the pack later on because I was pretty good about responding to each one and linking out to all participants.

CrazyKinux himself wasn’t in it for the long haul. So far as I can tell, his last update to the EVE Blog Pack came about in March of 2011. At least that is what the Internet Archive tells me.

After that the maintenance of the EVE Blog Pack and the monthly Blog Banters was moved on to other bloggers. I was on the outside seemingly for good at that point so wasn’t paying much attention.

After the departure of CrazyKinux it seems Seismic Stan stepped up to run the Blog Banters, then handed them off to Kirth Kodachi.  He held the helm for Blog Banters for a stretch before handing it over to Drackam at Sand, Cider, and Spaceships.  I guess there is a summary at that link, which would have been really handy at the start of this paragraph I suppose.  There they faded a little over a year back with the 80th running of the blogs.

I believe the blog pack itself was held by Rixx Javix for a stretch, who also provided the logo if I recall correctly, then it ended up with Marc Scaurus who was also running the EVE Bloggers site. It was Marc who put me back in the pack, towards the end of his tenure, and the timing was about right. That was around 2013 and my blog was at peak popularity and I was writing more about EVE Online than anything else.  Posts about New Eden top all other categories here.

When Marc wanted to step down from running EVE Bloggers and the EVE Blog Pack there was a battle over who the heir apparent would be, with Cyberin getting the domain and the blog pack and planning to keep the status quo.

Cyberin’s evebloggers.com

Then there was Alexia the usurper who, when denied the old domain, rolled up evebloggers.net where the plan was to get bloggers to post directly to that site and not their own blogs.

And in this corner, Alexia’s evebloggers.net

As it happened, neither of those sites lasted very long. But Fuzzysteve, Steve Ronuken of Fuzzworks and CSM fame, stepped in and setup a prototype site for EVE Bloggers, making it a thing once again.  And somewhere in there is the feed for the EVE Blog Pack.  I’m not sure what the URL for it is, it might have simply become the EVE Bloggers feed, but it feeds into Total EVE still, so my posts end up there.

That was in November of 2013 and not much has changed since then.

And so it goes.  But the blog pack carries on in its own way, as do blogs in general.

None of the above should be read in any sort of grumpy tone.  I appreciate all the work that CrazyKinux, Kirthi Kodachi, Seismic Stan, Rixx Javix, Drackam, Fuzzysteve, Marc Scaurus, and everybody else who had a hand in keeping this alive and going so I could, a decade down the road, write a summary filled with half-remember facts and links out to the Internet Archive.

So if I missed anything, or got anything wrong, feel free to correct me.

EVE Bloggers Has Another New Home

I pointed out a while back that after the tussle around who should take over the EVE Bloggers site, something that lead to there being two competing sites (and a discussion about blogging in general), both sites pretty much went kaput.  When I checked on both sites a couple of weeks back, one domain wasn’t responding while the other had been grabbed by a domain camper.  No winners in that race I guess.

And then, this morning, I logged in to look at my stats and I found I was getting traffic from the domain evebloggers.com.

I thought maybe Cyberin was back.

But when I went to the site, I found somebody new had taken over the domain.  Fuzzysteve has shouldered the burden of running the EVE Bloggers site and has what he calls a first draft version of the site up and running.

EVE Bloggers - Version 4?

EVE Bloggers – Version 4?

Fuzzysteve has a post up of his own describing the situation and giving some ideas where he plans to go with the site.

We will see how it goes, but I want to thank Fuzzysteve for bringing back another EVE Online community resource.

A Tale of Two EVE Blogging Sites

A little over two months back I wrote a post about the MMO blogging community.  You can find it here.

It was one of my long, rambling pieces driven by gut feeling and emotion and blinding flashes of the obvious and a little bit of logic in there somewhere.  And it was a success, in as much as any blog post of mine is a success or failure.  People responded to it, other bloggers chimed in, and it pretty much proved my most basic premise, that there is an MMO blogging community out there.  The only way to deny it seemed to be to redefine the word “community.”  Yeah, we know who did that.

All good fun.

That whole post was kicked off by a change in the EVE blogging community and a resulting conflict.  That was back in late June when Marc Scaurus was looking to hand over his volunteer EVE Online community projects, EVE Blog Banter, the EVE Blog Pack, and the EVE Bloggers site.

The first two found new owners without any trouble, but there was a bit of a conflict over the last, the EVE Bloggers site.  Marc had chosen Cyberin to take over the site, but the person who originally started it and let it go, Alexia Morgan, wanted it back.  And between the two, there was clearly a difference in vision on how the site should go forward.

Winterblink did an interview with both Alexia and Cyberin which lay out their philosophy on the site going forward. (Screen grabs of the sites stolen from Winterblink without permission.  But he won’t mind, he’s a mensch.)

Cyberin, who ended up with the evebloggers.com, wanted to keep it essentially as it stood and evolve it slowly over time.  But the site would remain an aggregation of independent blogs.

evebloggers.com

evebloggers.com

Alexia, who, once denied, started the competing evebloggers.net, had a different vision.  He (this is EVE, so it is always “he” even when the name says “she”) wanted to consolidate blogs into a tighter community.  He wanted there to be a single site at which EVE bloggers would post their work.  It would build a closer community, allow for more cross-pollenization, and would give readers a single location to find EVE blogs.

evebloggers.net

evebloggers.net

The down side was that Alexia was trying to take a hard line on EVE bloggers who remained independent.  If he was going to create this community, he wasn’t going to do so for people who wouldn’t buy in.  He did include a feed from external sites, likely because that represented the established EVE blogging community, but his disdain for those who wouldn’t play ball was pretty clear.  Read the interview linked above. Or if you want something more damning, read this.

It was also pretty clear from the outset which I would prefer.  As pointed out in my own post about community, the “come blog on my site” idea is about as old as blogging itself and seems to me to be about as enticing as mud for breakfast.  Why would I hand over control of my work to a stranger?  Community does not require giving up control!  So I threw in with Team Cyberin.

Time ran along, both sites got going, and then neglect set it.

Cyberin mentioned something going on in real life a while back and I have not seen a word from him since.  I hope he is well and that things work out.  The site ran on auto-pilot for a while, and then a few weeks back the blogger feed got stuck and hasn’t updated since.  So it has been August 23rd on the blogger feed since… well… August 23rd.

Since evebloggers.com is the source for the bulk of the traffic on my EVE Online Pictures site, I noticed something was amiss pretty quickly.  The feed waits for Cyberin’s return.

So you might feel inclined to give me a hearty, “Ha ha!” in that Nelson Muntz voice, following on with “You picked the losing side!”

At which point I would have to mention that Alexia Morgan’s evebloggers.net, when it isn’t down (which it seems to be rather regularly when I try to check in, to the point that I was gong to declare it dead), looks to consist of six blogs people, three of whom are active on a regular basis.  Which is fine.  Blogs are blogs.  But I still see no real incentive to go there and give up control of my work.  There is no “win” for me there.

Meanwhile, the EVE Online blogging community continues trucking along.  Kirith Kodachi has a new Blog Banter running over at his site, now the home of Blog Banters.  The EVE Blog Pack continues on doing what ever it is they do.  And plenty of EVE Online bloggers write and post and carry on.  It is the way the internet works; problems and bad ideas just get bypassed.

If you are looking for an aggregation site for EVE Online blogs, there is always Foo’s EVE Online Blog Roll and Blog EVE. Both are up and running along just fine for now, and neither come with a pile of disdain for the community.  And we’ll see if evebloggers.com gets revived at some point.