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Get Your Camelot Unchained Refund Now

The thing that kind of separated the ongoing bullshit that comes out of Chris Roberts around Star Citizen and Camelot Unchained was that at least the latter had not gone down the rampant feature creep path.

Because, otherwise, there are a lot of similarities between the two projects… and the two personalities.  Even their previous games were failures that they blamed on their corporate overlords, but now that they run the show the projects keep spinning out into infinity and you start to feel their overlords might have had a point.  With nobody holding them to their plans they do as they please.

And then yesterday Mark Jacobs told the world in an interview over at Massively OP that his company, City State Entertainment, has been working on another game for the last half of a year. It is named Colossus or Ragnarok or something… it isn’t clear… and boy was it a surprise.

If that isn’t the ultimate in feature creep, I don’t know what is.  They now have two in development games with no ship date instead of just one.  This is not progress.

In the interview Mark says in the same sentence that the new game both has and has not slowed down Camelot Unchained, which means that it has and he is just spinning bullshit now.  He learned well from his time at EA I guess.

I thought maybe his bit of pre-Kickstart campaign self-flagellation about Warhammer Online, where he sort of took a bit of the blame on his shoulders, meant something.  But it clearly didn’t.  In looking back I had forgotten how, despite everything, he still clung to the Metacritic score the game got at launch, like he was holding out for a “Best Score for an Otherwise Failed Game” award at GDC or something.

So now Camelot Unchained is just fantasy Star Citizen in my eyes, minus the broken alpha demo content you can play.  It is put up or shut up for them both.  Until they ship something real it is all just bullshit.

The difference for me is that I am in on Star Citizen for the minimum bid, but I pledged a lot more for Camelot Unchained and I am feeling all the more the sucker for the faith I showed.

I want a refund.

City State Entertainment says on their FAQ page that they will give people refunds.  Just send an email to support@citystateentertainment.com asking for one.  You won’t get the full amount back.  They will subtract the fees the incur giving you the refund, but at least you ought to get something back.  And it is about the only message one can send that Mark won’t just hand wave away.

We shall see what I get in response.  I expect them to stonewall me on the request.   And I will certainly post updates here on how it goes.

I had already pledged never to Kickstart an MMO again, so I cannot really swear further on that.  But this certainly hasn’t done anything to soften my view on this.

Finally, I am curious that he went to Massively OP first for this announcement.  It isn’t like a gaming site with a bigger audience wouldn’t have been happy to have the scoop.  Did he expect it would slip by or that he would get a more favorable response going there?  The big sites will pick up the story anyway.

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The Chaos Era is Coming to Cynos

CCP announced in the forums today that with the September update they are planning two changes when it comes to cynosural fields, the ship mounted beacons that act as jump targets for capital ships.  The announcement in full:

This September we are planning two large changes for Cynosural Fields:

  • Cynosural Field Generator I can only be fit by Force Recon Ships and Black Ops Battleships (note: these classes can still fit covert cynos)
  • Jump Freighters can jump to Covert Cynosural Fields

During this era of chaos we are eager to introduce new challenges for veteran pilots while working towards a deeper and more balanced capital meta. Historically, cynos have been extremely flexible. They can be used on flocks of alts at nearly no risk or used by the largest and strongest ships in the game. With few options for cyno disruption, capital response time and power has grown to the point that it’s oppressing activity. This change will make it more complex and demanding to get capitals to the field quickly and give more strategic options for those wishing to disrupt capital response.

While most of the impact from this change is on combat, we are sensitive to the effect on Jump Freighters and logistics overall. Jump Freighters will be allowed to use Covert Cynos which can be activated by cheaper hulls like Covert Ops Frigates. This may need further attention and we will be watching this area very closely.

As clarified in a follow up post, that means that only the following ships can fit a cyno:

  • Force Recons
    • Arazu
    • Pilgrim
    • Falcon
    • Rapier
  • Black Ops Battleships
    • Redeemer
    • Widow
    • Sin
    • Panther
    • Marshall (maybe?)

If CCP carries through on this, the days of the cyno alt in a small, sacrificial ship will be over.

No more cyno on a Kestral

My hot take on this is that Malcanis will prevail yet again and the rich will get richer while the poor will be left out.  Is that that goal?

A large null sec organization that can afford to throw away expensive hulls for cynos or organize protection for their cyno beacons will carry on as before.  Coalition capital moves ops won’t change and you will still get dropped on by a bunch of titans if you come to Delve.  You’ll just get a better kill mail if you manage to pop the cyno ship.

However, if you are trying to get your own capital ship moved around New Eden, welcome to the new expensive reality.  You can only light a cyno in low and null sec, where their presence on the overview system-wide makes them an easy to find target, stuck in place for 10 minutes.  The only reason not to bother is that a rookie ship doesn’t get you a kill mark.

But if suddenly every cyno has an expensive kill mail attached, people will be racing to pop them.  I just did a multi-cyno trip across low sec to get a suicide dread in place a few weeks back.  It cost me a bunch of fuel and a Kestrel.  Would I do the same if I knew I was going to have to sacrifice a nearly 300 million ISK Falcon, the current cheapest of all the hulls listed according to EVE Appraisal, for each jump?  Probably not.  That would have cost me almost as much as the dreadnought itself.

And when people are burning a Falcon for every cyno, expect that price to go up.

I know that CCP wants to shake up the meta, but this feels like it will have the same result that so many past changes have, where an effort to make the larger groups hurt only ends up locking out the small time operator.  I suppose at least they had a thought for the jump freighter pilots, who will now only have to burn a covert ops frigate for each jump.  Expect shipping prices to go up some as well.

This change isn’t coming until September and at times CCP does listen to feedback.  We shall see if this is the chaos they want.  I am sure there will be lots of… ahem… discussion about this proposed change.  The forum thread about this is already alight, as is the main thread on Reddit.

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