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Lost Dungeons of Norrath Goes Live on Fippy Darkpaw… And Maybe Legacy of Ykesha…

This should now be live in game.

-Naylie, in one of the LDON forum threads

Oh, for a simple declarative sentence!  Did she mean one expansion, both expansions, or something else?

Released Together?

Why couldn’t she have written, “LDON and LoY are now live in game!”  Don’t they teach the value of a clarity in school any more?  Her statement was in a thread that was only about LDON.

After a morning of grousing in the forums about LDON not unlocking when expected, Naylie, the EQ Community Manager, posted around 3pm Pacific Time that development was looking into the issue.  Then about two hours later she posted the message quoted at the top of this post.

I mention this because, of course, the very next message in the thread was about LDON NPCs not being available yet.  And nobody went to the forums with the unlock message.  And, even the next morning, neither LDON or LoY are lit up as being unlocked on the progress chart, though people are clearly doing LDON content.

LDON Content

Which leaves me wondering what is unlocked and what is not.

Of course, part of the problem is that I am attempting to track and report on the progress of the Fippy Darkpaw progression server without actually being subscribed to the game.  That means I cannot post to the forums nor can I log in to the game to make a few simple checks that would verify that the expansions are live.

If I could see a froglok in game, the race introduced with Legacy of Ykesha, or find the LDON NPCs (or get the message inviting me to come visit them) then I would have positive proof that both expansions were up.

Instead, I am going to take the cessation of complaints as the indicator that both expansions went live yesterday afternoon.

So that would make the timeline for the Fippy Darkpaw server something like this so far:

  • Classic EverQuest competed, February 24, 2011
  • Ruins of Kunark unlocked, June 6, 2011
  • Ruins of Kunark completed, June 19, 2011
  • Scars of Velious unlocked, August 29, 2011
  • Scars of Velious completed, September 14, 2011
  • Shadows of Luclin unlocked, November 21, 2011
  • Shadows of Luclin completed, December 4, 2011
  • Planes of Power unlocked, February 13, 2012
  • Lost Dungeons of Norrath unlocked, March 12, 2012
  • Legacy of Ykesah unlocked, March 12, 2012

Which leaves us looking towards the Gates of Discord, the next expansion on the list.  At this point I am not sure when we should expect the vote on it to go live.  Was the timer for it triggered by the completion of the Planes of Power bosses?  Will it be triggered only after LDON and LoY bosses are complete?

I suppose I will just have to watch the forums and see what happens.

At least the PoP/LDON/LoY group appears to be the only exceptions to the “one expansion at a time” plan.  Hopefully that will lead to a bit less confusion on my part.

Meanwhile, EverQuest is set to go free to play on Friday.  Not that that will help me.  The progression servers require a gold membership, which is a classic subscription.

Lost Dungeons of Norrath and Legacy of Ykesha Still Not Live on Fippy Darkpaw

Previously it had been announced by Piestro, the EverQuest community manager at the time, that the next two expansions to come up on the Fippy Darkpaw time locked progression server would behave as they did on the previous progression servers.

(Those servers were The Combine and The Sleeper, if I remember correctly.  All that history seems to have disappeared, which is part of the reason I am keeping track of the new servers here.)

That is to say, the Lost Dungeons of Norrath expansion would unlock automatically 15 days after the Planes of Power went live and the Legacy of Ykesha would unlock 15 days after Rallos Zek was slain for the first time.

Expected Together

Both of those events happened on February 13, 2012.  So there was an expectation that both expansions would go live on February 28.

As I posted here previously, they did not.

After a long thread, with the usual arguments (no such thread is complete until somebody chimes in that “expansion X” should never get unlocked, along with the paired duo of “Sony is always right” and “Sony is always fail”), the latest EverQuest community manager, Naylie, passed on an explanation of the issue.

I spoke with Development and apparently we were a little confused on how this unlock was going to happen.

These two unlocks should happen the same as the other expansion unlocks. If enough yes votes happen, both expansions should unlock on March 12, 2012.

This change of tune got some groans and a bit of fist shaking, but at least there was an answer.  After a bit more grumbling, people went back to their routines.

There was a bit of worry about the vote itself, since the expansion being voted on (two expansions really, LDON and Ykesha), was not listed on the ballot, just the generic “unlock the next expansion” verbiage.  This caused some to fear that people would think the vote was for the Gates of Discord expansion and that they might mistakenly vote against it. (GoD was, for some guilds, the “let’s go beta test WoW” expansion, and marked the end of growth and the beginning of decline for EverQuest.)

A name that was a little too apt

Though, frankly, no vote has gone against unlocking so far, so I am not so sure how valid those worries were.  Then again, there was at least one new thread agitating for a no vote because it was assumed to be the Gates of Discord.

And then on March 11, the day before the expected unlock, another vote came up.  As usual, there was only the generic “next expansion” verbiage, so it was not clear if this was a vote on The Gates of Discord, a re-vote on LDON, a separate vote of Ykesha, or just some error condition.

This was followed up on March 12 by a lack of voting results and/or expansion unlocks.

A thread on the forum ensued.  There has been, up to the point in time when I initially posted this, no response.

And the chance of a timely response seems pretty thin for two reasons.

First, this week EverQuest anniversary week, with the game turning 13 this coming Friday.  That means store specials and in-game events, none of which apply to the progression servers, so community team eyes will be focused elsewhere.

Second, this is the month that EverQuest is supposed to go free to play.  When the free to play transition was announced back at the end of January, the timeline for the change was given at “early March.”

I'm not making this up

I think we have passed the point which most people would consider “early” in March. (If you want to find out more, you can click here.)   We will shortly be at the aforementioned 13th anniversary, a date mentioned in the free to play announcement as one of the first post free to play events.

So I would imagine that the EverQuest team is very focused on the business model transition to the exclusion of almost anything else at this point.

And free to play is one thing that won’t touch the progression servers.  As noted in the details of the subscription matrix for free to play, players will be required to have a traditional, or Gold under the new terminology, subscription in order to participate on the progression servers.  A nostalgic model for a nostalgia driven server.  And, of course, the progression servers won’t have the selection of items from the Station Store either, so the model makes sense.  But it means that the progression servers won’t be getting much attention and are, in fact, probably being cursed by some programmer at this very moment who is having to add in or maintain a series of conditional statements just to keep those servers as close to the nostalgic idea as SOE can manage.

So the time locked progression servers are not the highest priority on SOE’s list of things to do this week.

Meanwhile, the Vulak server (see, I do remember them now and again) is running a couple weeks behind Fippy Darkpaw and no doubt want to see how this gets resolved if only to get an idea of when they might get access to LDON and LoY.

Lost Dungeons of Norrath Still Lost on Fippy Darkpaw

On the Fippy Darkpaw time locked progression server, the Lost Dungeons of Norrath, the next EverQuest expansion slated to become available, failed to show up on the expected morning.

Still Lost

It was reported in the forums and repeated elsewhere that the Lost Dungeons of Norrath would unlock 15 days after the Planes of Power went live.  Since the Planes went live on February 13th, that would put the Lost Dungeons unlock at February 28th. However, according to reports in the forums, the expansion failed to show up on the appointed day.

Instead a vote came up that morning regarding the unlock, which was set to run through March 12th, something that would push the unlock out considerably.

Naylie, the new community manager for EverQuest, who just recently took over from Piestro (who got thrown into all the fun going on in EverQuest II of late), chimed in to say she was looking into the situation.

There is no word so far as to when the Lost Dungeons of Norrath will be found and what will happen with The Legacy of Ykesha expansion, which was targeted to unlock 15 days after Rallos Zek is slain… a death which occurred on February 13th as well… so that unlock is officially off schedule as well it seems.

Update: Naylie posted the following on the forums:

I spoke with Development and apparently we were a little confused on how this unlock was going to happen.

These two unlocks should happen the same as the other expansion unlocks. If enough yes votes happen, both expansions should unlock on March 12, 2012.

So it looks like there will be a vote, and that the vote is for BOTH Lost Dunegons of Norrath and the Legacy of Ykesha.  Tune back in a couple of weeks to see how that ends up.

And, to add on to the confusion, it is unclear how this will all impact the vote/unlock timer for the Gates of Discord expansion.  Never a dull moment!

The Planes of Power Goes Live on Fippy Darkpaw

Yesterday saw the next EverQuest expansion on the list, The Planes of Power, go live on the Fippy Darkpaw time locked progression server.

Firiona Vie casts!

The picture above swiped from Giant Bomb, which has a good write up about about the expansion detailing the progression as well as a lot of screen shots related to the expansion, including the front and back of the UK version of the expansion, which I also stole and put together into a single image.

Oh no, system requirements!

And then there is the US box art.

Planes of Power

As usual, there was no acknowledgement of this update from SOE.  I realize I say this every time there is an update, but it just mystifies me that a game that pays a good portion of the rent base on its nostalgia appeal spends to little effort talking up their key nostalgia event.

No, there was only the usual herald of a new expansion to alert me to the unlock.  Somebody started off complaining about the exp rate.

SOE is on top of one thing this time around.  They have already set up the PoP raid rotation in advance.  No guilds are yet qualified, but I have no doubt some will be soon.

This expansion carries on the accelerated history of EverQuest as represented by the time locked progression server.  The timeline so far:

Fippy Darkpaw time locked progression server launched, February 15, 2011

  • Classic EverQuest competed, February 24, 2011
  • Ruins of Kunark unlocked, June 6, 2011
  • Ruins of Kunark completed, June 19, 2011
  • Scars of Velious unlocked, August 29, 2011
  • Scars of Velious completed, September 14, 2011
  • Shadows of Luclin unlocked, November 21, 2011
  • Shadows of Luclin completed, December 4, 2011
  • Planes of Power unlocked, February 13, 2012

We are now a year into the Fippy Darkpaw time locked progression server, and the guild Twisted Legion is clearly dominating the first to boss fights aspect of the game.  One day in and there are already bosses down to the guild.

Planes of Power now open and active

From my own personal timeline, this is the first EverQuest expansion I know I did not purchase.  I am actually hazy on whether I bought Luclin or not, but I was pretty much done with the game until The Serpent’s Spine expansion four years (and seven more expansions) down the road.

What I mostly recall about the expansion was complaints from friends of mine who were raiders about broken content and the burden of the whole flag/unlock system.

As always, there is discussion about the expansion over at the unofficial Fippy Darkpaw site.

Finally, there is one thing that makes the Planes of Power unlock on Fippy Darkpaw a little different than previous.  The next two expansions, the Lost Dungeons of Norrath and The Legacy of Ykesha, are on timers related to the Planes of Power.  According to a post over at Fippy Darkpaw, Lost Dungeons of Norrath will unlock 15 days after Planes of Power, which will put it at February 28th.  The Legacy of Ykesha will unlock 15 days after Rallos Zek is slain, which will put it some time before mid March I would guess.

After that, it is back on the usual schedule.  60 days after the last boss is slain there will be a 7 day vote on the next expansion.  That will almost certainly be a vote in the affirmative, at which time the Gates of Discord expansion will become available on Fippy Darkpaw.

The Shadows of Luclin Complete on Fippy Darkpaw

The EverQuest expansion, The Shadows of Luclin, went live on the Fippy Darkpaw progression server back on November 21st.

Well, the last boss was cleared as of December 4th.  While the official timeline remains broken, in that it no longer shows who completed quests or killed bosses, reports indicate that Twisted Legion, the dominant guild on the server, brought down Aten Ha Ra.  This event starts the 60 day clock to the next expansion vote.

Luclin Bosses Down

The next vote should commence around the end of January, with the expansion opening, if the “yes” vote passes, by the second week of February at the latest.

The next expansion in line is actually a combo pack if reports are correct, and will include BOTH The Planes of Power and the Lost Dungeons of Norrath expansions.

This actually puts the releases out of order, as The Legacy of Ykesha originally came out between those two expansions.  As I understand it, the raid focused Planes of Power and the group focused Lost Dungeons of Norrath were viewed as complimentary sets of content.  So you Frogloks will have to wait until the unlock after that it seems.

This, of course, lead to more forum posts about voting “no” on expansions, which at least might distract from the ongoing complaints about the speed of AA experience.  Planes of Power remains… controversial nine years later… but then so do most of the post-Velious expansions.